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From: Dorothy Koenig <>
Subject: Re: [D-Col] Geertje Cornelis (van Der Hoeven?)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:15:05 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041220223757.01356080@mail.btinternet.com>


Dear Terry, In 1998 the Picton Press of Rockport, Maine, published Janny
Venema's "Deacons' Accounts 1652-1674 of the First Dutch Reformed Church
of Beverwyck/Albany, New York", Janny Venema is an associate of the New
Netherland Project in Albany. She translated the Deacons' account books
from the original Dutch and added editorial comments.

On page 246 we learn that in August 1673 "Steeven Koonink's wife" was
reimbursed 6 florins for having given "6 pounds of butter at 1 guilder a
pound given to Hans "de backer's" [the baker's] wife".

In a footnote, Venema says, "Steven Jansz Koninck's first wife was Mary
Goosens. They were divorced in 1663. His second wife was Geertje
Cornelis van Fulpen, widow of Cornelis van der Hoeven. She died in 1684."

Dorothy



On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, THJ wrote:

>
> Still battling on with my van Der Hoeven/van Vulpen families, I would value
> the opinion of the list on two entries from the Court Minutes of Albany Vol
> 1 (I'm using a reprint of the 1926 Edition tr and Efd AJF Van Laer)
>
> On 29 October 1668, the court record lists a complaint by Dirk van
> Schellune against Jan Janse Bleeker and Geetie Cornelis. The matter
> against Bleecker is heard by the court who subsequently rules that
> Schelluyne may recover any fees owing to him from his 'buisiness in
> connection with the court'. The complaint against Geertie Cornelis is not
> mentioned, possibly she also owed van Schelluyne money and was covered by
> the ruling on Bleeker.
>
> The existence of a woman named Geertie Cornelis is interesting to me,
> particulary at this early date which would argue against the settlement of
> the Van Der Hoeven family in Albany before 1673 at which date some writers
> have suggested that Cornelius Van Der Hoeven (son of Geertje Cornelis van
> Der Hoeven/van Vulpen) was listed as a magistrate in Bedford.
>
> On July 1670, there is a citiation of a problem between Juffrouw Luyda and
> a Geertie Cornelisz, but no mention is made of this in the subsequent minutes.
>
> Id be grateful for any insights into the identity of Jufrouw Luyda (Van
> Laer Suggests this is Alida Schaets) or any alternative suggestions as to
> who 'Geertie Cornelis' might be.
>
> Terry HJ
> England
>
>
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