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Subject: Re: [D-Col] Who is Metje Grevenraet
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:47:13 +0200 (CEST)
In-Reply-To: <102020051710.28109.4357CF7F000BA58600006DCD21979133290A9B0708999C9C01 9D0CD20C@mchsi.com>
To be clear: I am not suggesting that Metje is a daughter of Andries son
of Hendrick. I'm fully aware of the problem with that! I brought up this
Andries to illustrate that within this Grevenraet family the name Andries
was used more, so we could be succesful in finding this brother of
Hendrick (hypothesis from Hoffman); but again: one has to find records!
(remember also that Metje [Machteld] was a name related to this family:
Machteld de Riemer, first born daughter of Isaac de Riemer and Lijsbet
Grevenraet; apparently she died young, her elder sister Machteld married
within the Gouverneur family).
> Frans seems to be suggesting that we see if Metje Grevenraet might have
> been the
> daughter of the Andries Grevenraet who was son of Hendrick Grevenraet. He
> has a
> record of this Andries having been baptised in 1620 in Amsterdam.
> Well, the only Grevenraet on record in New Netherland who had the
> Andriesz was Tryntje Andriesz Grevenraet who was the wife of Jan Dircksen
> This couple had children baptised at the New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed
> Church in
> 1652, 1655, 1657 and 1663. In at least one case, Metje Grevenraet was
> as a sponsor or witness.
> However, Tryntje and Jan had at least two previous children born in
> before coming to New Netherland, Andries, born ca. 1648 who married in
> 1671, and
> Dirckje, born ca. 1650 who married in 1670.
> If Tryntje Andriesz Grevenraet married ca. 1647, her trial date of birth
> have been ca. 1627, making her a contemporary of the Andries Grevenraet
> in Amsterdam in 1620, not his daughter.
> This suggests that Hendrick Grevenraet may well indeed have had a brother
> Andries who might have been the father of Tryntje Andriesz Grevenraet and
> proposed sister Metje Grevenraet.
> It should be borne in mind that Metje Grevenraet married Anthony Jansen
> Salee who was born in 1607. This would be reasonable if she was born in
> 1620's or 1630's. To be the daughter of the Andries Grevenraet who was
> son of
> Hendrick Grevenraet, she would have been born not earlier that 1644, which
> have made her only 16 when the foster-mother of Nicholas Rosenfelt.
> Best wishes to all.
> Frank S. Crosswhite
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