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From: "Howard Swain" <>
Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Who is Weyntie Elberts,widow of Aert Willemszen?
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:48:52 -0700
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Hi Ethel,

I assume you are thinking that maybe Weyntie was a sister
of Elbert Elbertszen (Stoothof), right?

That looks like a reasonable hypothesis.

Robert Miller in his article “Aert Willemszen and His Descendants”
in NYGBR vol 26, p. 134 says, “Weyntje Elberts, his wife, probably
came from Nieukercken, in Zeeland, with her brother Elbert Elbertszen.”
He doesn’t seem to offer any proof they are siblings, though.

Elbert Elbertszen came to NN in the Calmer Sleutel with Arent van Curler.
They sailed after Dec 29, 1637. See Van Rensselaer Bowier Mss.
pp. 395-400. If she is a sister to Elbert Elbertszen and if she came on
the same ship, Van Rensselaers doesn’t mention it, as far as I can see.

Note that Elbert Elbertszen witnessed the bp. of Weyntie’s son Elbert.
Arent van Curler wit. dau. Annetje and Arent’s cousin, Jacob van Curler
wit. the bap. of son Willem.

I think E E and the van Curlers were from Nijkerk in Gelderland, not
Nieukercken, in Zeeland as Mr. Miller said. See NYGBR vol 64, p. 12
for arms of Van Curler and also note that the Van Rensselaers were from
that area.

Also, Van Laer in VRBM p. 817 (or SRwk p. 17) has E E from Nykerck
in Gelderland.

In a quick search in NN sources, I didn’t find anything else to tie Weyntie to
Elbert Elbertszen. He does not seem to be mentioned, for example, in the
Orphanmasters proceedings involving her. See Min. of the Orphanmasters,
pp. 205-210.
You may have to search Nijkerk records for further info.

One thing that puzzles me is the bap. of Wyntje on 8 Mar 1643 by an
Aert Willemszen and then the bap. on 21 June 1643 of a son Elbert.


Regards,
Howard




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Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Who is Weyntie Elberts, widow of Aert Willemszen?

Who is Weyntie Elberts? Is she a Stoothoff ?

Weyntie Elberts married (1) Aert Willemszen, four children (2) Cornelis
Aertszen Van Schaik, no issue.

My ancestor Cornelis Aertsen Van Schaik married (1) Belitje Hendricks,
four children (2) Weyntje Elberts
10 July 1662, no issue found.


First marriage of Cornelis Aaertsen Van Schaik:
Cornelis Aertsen Van Schaik married (1) Belitje Hendricks 1 July 1649.
"16 June 1640 - Cornelis Arentss van Woerden, living in the Brouwerstraat,
30 years of age, and Belitgie Heyndrix van Aernhem, living in the
Jaelemerstraat?, having no parents, 28 years of age. They were married 1 July 1640
in Sloterdijk." [Marriage recorded in margin]. SOURCE: Register of Marriage
Banns, Amsterdam, Netherlands. DTB Amsterdam 454, p.165 - translated by
Peter Nouwt. [Hopper Genealogy Appendix D p.245]

Second marriage of Cornelis Aertsen Van Schaik:
"Cornelis Aertszen, Wedr. Van Belitje Hendricks, en Weyntje Elberts, Wede.
Van Aert Willemszen."
Banns: 10 July 1662. New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church [NYDC 1:28]

Ethel Kay Konight

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