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From: Peter van Schaik <>
Subject: Re: [ELLIS~ISL] When do the ship manifest get filled out?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:38:31 -0700
In-Reply-To: <168.a356a7d.29c1040b@aol.com>


>First if a migration from Switzerland to the California Coast line took place
>in 1870 would they have first arrived in Ellis Island?

Very few departure lists have survived. In addition your person could have
left from any port. Rotterdam/Antwerpen/LeHavre.... But also the south side
of France or even Italy.
In 1870 he would have arrived at Castle Garden. If you are sure about the
year you can find the films at either the NARA or at a local FHC.

>I was wondering if anyone can tell me if the Ships Manefest a filled out on
>departure or arrival?

Before or at time of departure. Sometime during the trip or at the end of
the trip it was amended to add additional info . ( baby's born/people
died/stow away's etc.)

>Are immagration and naturalization papers from 1910 completed soon after
>arrival?

Not until after a couple of years. If you can find your people on the 1901
census ,it will give you the year of arrival and the year of naturalization.

>If apon arriving in America a immigrant changes his name is his name on the
>ships manefest the given name or the name it has been changed too?

Not unless he told the captain about it , before debarking.


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