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From: "Ann" <>
Subject: Re: NORTHWICH Cheshire (Northwich?) words
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:41:01 -0000
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funny you say "used" the term maiden Denise... my maiden is full of washing right now and I had to do my washing by hand and rinse it in the bath twice this week as my automatic washing machine has died.... and because I have a back problem and couldn't bend over the bath I used a brush stale as a posser...now that's a blast from the past hey!..
Ann

PS I am not doing that again this week...

Ann

----- Original Message -----
From: Denise McNeel
To: Ann ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: NORTHWICH Cheshire (Northwich?) words


We also had the back kitchen, kitchen oddity. I wonder how many of you used the term clothes maiden for the structure you hung wt clothes to dry or air on in the house? Denise


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Ann <> wrote:

It is interesting what terms different families use in their everyday life,
wherever they came from or live afterwards.

My family, is well known that we are also very much Castle born and bred
always used the term " backs" on the backs or in the backs.

Kitchen was back kitchen
living room was kitchen
front or sitting room was parlour

my aunt used the word scullery, she was also born and bred at Castle and was
the only one in the family to call her kitchen a scullery.

My first knowledge of ginnel was when I met my husband born in Rusholme and
his mother Salford born and bred also used the term Brew for Castle Hill

I remember my nana Hagan was Drinkwater saying she was going to the Netty..
where did that come from ?
sorry ... i hope it isnt a rude term.

I well remember the back yard toiler with a long wooden seat with a hole in
the middle.
and how cold it was in Winter so then you have the term gazzunder, i don't
know if that spelling is the desired one but it is understandable anyway.

Another amusement to me now is the term
"Courtyard garden"

Ann


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elaine Hanson" <>
To: <>

Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: NORTHWICH Cheshire (Northwich?) words


>
>
> Subject: Re: NORTHWICH Cheshire (Northwich?) words
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Not sure, but from what I've read it seems that a "ginnel" is particular
> to
> being between 2 houses or gable ends, rather than an alleyway at the rear
> or
> end of a terrace of houses. Ginnel is what my Castle grandparents
> used.....there were plenty to explore as a child, and it became the
> accepted
> term in our family.
>
> There's a great explanation on the BBC voices site :
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/individual/lancashire-mellorbrook-con
> nell-edward.shtml
>
> there's also another article at
> http://www.mirfieldmemories.co.uk/mirfield_today.htm
>
>
> the author gives the West Yorkshire definitions as:
> A ginnel is a path between high walls or buildings.
> A snicket is a path between more open areas usually bordered by hedges or
> fences.
>
>
> The definition may well be different for different regions, and the
> defenition broadened to include all alleyways. Both are northern terms as
> far as I know, but most sources seem to attribute "Ginnel" to the
> Lancashire
> dialect.
>
> Elaine.
>
>
>
>
> Hi Elaine
>
> As an ex Northwichian livivng in Nottinghamshire I ask - what is the
> difference between a "ginnel" and a "snicket"?
> I remember both words being used.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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