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From: "DiDi" <>
Subject: Re: [DOR-LIFE] Kissing and all that!
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:29:30 +1200
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Kissing can be very off putting for some people just as hugging is. I find
hugging far more acceptable and I feel some people miss out when they do not
like hugging. Of course there is a time and a place for these things.
Diane


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all that!


> Hello list,
>
> I have just received my Journal of the DHFS and read with interest
Graham Rabbetts article on the "Trafalgar" Hardy.
> Now, I'm not saying I'm an expert on kissing (although I haven't had too
many complaints!), but I think it's time to kill this old theory of Nelson
saying 'kismet' and not 'kiss me".
>
> It was perfectly acceptable for men to kiss each other - on the cheek
of course, not the slobbery mouth to mouth as per the U of SSR. Only the
sick-minded puritanical Victorians put an end to this, but you can read,
Fielding, Richardson and even Shakespeare to discover how commonplace it
used to be. These same Victorians also invented the 'kismet' theory because
a real MAN like Nelson couldn't possibly ask for a kiss.
>
> In many countries, France, Italy and Spain just as examples, men
embrace and I don't think they are all sexual deviationists.
> On the other hand, my French wife was shocked at my kissing my mother on
the lips. Which I thought was OK, but there were some very old aunties who
made a very wet job of it. She was also somewhat put out when I kissed my
female friends, which is definitely not the done thing in France. But there
are a good few seconds between a 'peck' and a 'kiss' where you have to come
up for air from time to time!
>
> My father was brought up in a very Victorian family (Indian Army and
all that), and when I saw him after a 5 or 6 year absence I was given a firm
handshake - which in itself was extremely rare.
>
> In fact, like Hardy and Nelson, the only time I actually kissed my dad
was on his death-bed.
>
> Geoff
>
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