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From: "Eric Whitlock" <>
Subject: Fw: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS/RICHINS/RICHENS
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:45:52 +0100

Ciao Tutti I don't know why but it seems some on the list did not get my last message regarding my belief in the certainty of Ritchins being the correct interpretation. My reason are set out below. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Whitlock" <> To: <>; <> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS/RICHINS/RICHENS > Ciao Tutti > > I have a photocopy of the said entry for Samuel COOK and Mary RITCHINS. > It definitely says married Feb 22nd 1746. No ambiguity there then. > > However this idea of Mary RITCINS surname possibly being KITCHENS can very > easily be dismissed. I know the letter in question has a flourish at the > top that makes it look a bit like a K but just look at the capital letter > R at the beginning of the word Rector, in the same entry, after the name > of the clergyman officiating, a minister called Edward DRAPER. The R > looks exactly the same as the capital R at the beginning of RITCHINS. So > unless someone knows of an ecclesiastical title called Kector we must come > to the conclusion that Mary was definitely a RITCHENS. Does anyone else > agree with this logic? > > All the best > > Eric > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Hunt" <> > To: <> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: RE: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS/RICHINS/RICHENS > > >> Many thanks, Brian. Every little bit helps, of course, so every >> offering is useful. It may be that the Richens name is not actually my >> Richings, but I shall make use of it, even as an elimination procedure. >> Regards, >> Joan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BRIAN MORGAN [mailto:] >> Sent: 9 October 2005 6:53 PM >> To: >> Subject: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS/RICHINS/RICHENS >> >> Hello Joan >> There is a RICHINS site in the Family heritage Series, titles 'Richins >> Genealogy' and the URL was www.familyheritageseries.org/genealogy/d5.php >> I extracted from it their rather dodgy view of the COOK family, dodgy >> because they had Mary Richins marry the father of Sam Cook 1715; I've >> just had a quick look through my hard copy stuff to see if I can find >> the researcher who first suggested that Richens/Richins was the name, >> rather than the Kitchen which I and others had interpreted. As usual it >> wasn't readily visible! >> >> This is the view of the COOK and RICHINS link that currently obtains in >> my file and I'm pretty sure most agree that this is possibly correct but >> not proven in respect of Sam 1715s three marriages. >> >> I have no genealogical need to progress the line of Richins, so I hope >> this offering is useful. >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> >> Descendants of Samuel Cook >> >> >> >> >> >> 1 Samuel Cook b: 19 Dec 1683 in Marshfield, Gloucs Baptism: 04 Apr 1756 >> Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: 02 Apr 1756 in Hawkesbury # chldn: 2 >> >> . +Margaretcook b: 1671 d: 20 Aug 1757 in Hawkesbury # chldn: 2 >> >> 2 Samuel Cook b: 1715 in Hawkesbury Baptism: 1721 IGI s/o Saml & >> Margaret, Hawkesbury d: 31 Jul 1795 in Hawkesbury # chldn: 10 >> >> .... +Anncook d: Bef. 1745 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs # chldn: 2 >> >> *2nd Wife of Samuel Cook: >> >> .... +Mary Richins b: 13 May 1725 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs m: 22 Feb >> 1745/46 in Horton, Gloucs d: 13 May 1762 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs # chldn: >> 5 >> >> *3rd Wife of Samuel Cook: >> >> .... +Elizabeth Clark b: Jun 1727 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs Baptism: 14 Jun >> 1727 Hawkesbury, Gloucs. FamilySearch ancestral file m: 27 Feb 1763 in >> Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucs d: 13 Jan 1808 in Hawkesbury # chldn: 3 >> >> 2 Joseph Cook b: Bef. 1710 in Marshfield # chldn: 4 >> >> .... +Sarah Mills b: Bef. 1710 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs m: 16 Jan 1730/31 >> in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Jan 1740/41 in Marshfield, Gloucs # chldn: 3 >> >> *2nd Wife of Joseph Cook: >> >> .... +MaryCook m: Abt. 1742 # chldn: 1 >> >> >> Joan Hunt <> wrote: >> Dear Brian and Cath, >> Seeing that Mary Richins/Richens married Sam Cook at Hawkesbury, I >> thought I had better put my two bob's worth in. My Henry Richings >> married Elizabeth Ellen at Hawkesbury Upton in 1819....if you find any >> connections I would be delighted to be kept in the picture. >> All the best, >> Joan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BRIAN MORGAN [mailto:] >> Sent: 7 October 2005 4:22 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS >> >> Hi, Cath >> A lot of people have been round this bouy. Circumstantially Sam 1715 >> fits the bill if his wife Ann died giving birth to Sarah. So far there >> has been no evidence from my searches or anyone else's that I know of, >> of another unmarried (w or b) Samuel Cook from Hawkesbury. We are always >> subject to the vagaries of the officiating priests who can be lax and >> accommodating or rigid sticklers in their approach to the job, so >> bachelor may simply mean unmarried or whatever. I be delighted to amend >> my file if some dedicated soul finds proof that there was another Sam at >> Hawkesbury who married Mary Richins/Richens. Then we would need to know >> his ancestors and that would throw the whole COOK pot into the boil >> again. >> Sorry to have missed you at the w/e. I may be there at Christmas. >> Cheers >> Brian >> >> >> "catherine.mcilwrick" wrote: >> Hi Brian >> In the comments column of marriage entry at Horton it has got b p >> Hawkesbury >> for Samuel and s this p for Mary surely this means Samuel Cook was a >> bachelor when married to Mary. >> Regards Catherine >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "BRIAN MORGAN" >> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [HWK] COOK & KITCHENS >> >> >>> H, Cath & Carole >>> What you are looking for is SC + Mary Richins m Horton 22 Feb 1745/6. >> Originally I thought it was Kitchen but have been convinced that was >> actually Richins. Other have done the same research and use Richins. >>> Hope that helps >>> Cheers >>> Brian >>> >>> ANTHONY SHARP wrote: >>> Hi Kath >>> >>> On Saturday you asked about the marriage of Samuel COOK & Mary >> KITCHINS >>> (what an appropriate pair of surnames!). >>> >>> The Banns registers for Hawkesbury start in 1754 - there may be >> earlier >>> ones but I don't have them. There is no entry in the marriage register >>> for them in 1746/7. >>> >>> The Phillimore's entry in the Horton Register is the same as you gave >> me >>> but it is apparent that the marriage took place on 22 February 1746/7 >>> not 1746. .It is the last entry in the first Volume. >>> >>> For the record it says: >>> >>> Samuel COOK b. p. Hawksbury & Mary KITCHINS s, this p. >>> >>> Sorry I couldn't help you further. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Carole >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: >>> 04/10/2005 >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >>> Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is 27th August, >> before the Hawkesbury Show. Contact Robert via his web site to book >> lunch. >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. 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