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From: "Janice Doughty" <>
Subject: DOUGHTY, SEEKING, HOARE, NICHOLAS, SILVESTER
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:13:38 +1000
Good morning Linda, Tony and Listers,
This is a long story, but I can assure you, very interesting and
Listers' help would be appreciated.
This is my first post to the List and I am hoping that someone out there
will be able to assist me with information regarding the Doughty family.
The last four names mentioned in the 'Subject' field above married into
the Doughty family in Portsea. I will set out the history of the
Doughtys and how they arrived in Portsea, Hampshire.
Robert Doughty and Alice Gathercole married on 14.05.1807 in Terrington
St Clements in Norfolk and had six children. Their eldest son John and
his wife Jemima Doughty (nee Chilvers) and Robert and Alice's youngest
son Robert Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth Doughty (nee Burcham) left
Terrington St Clements and began to move south ending up in Portsea with
their growing families.
By the early 1860s John, his wife Jemima with their two youngest
children, had moved from Norfolk to 4 Simpson Road, Fremantle Cottage
Portsea in Hampshire, with their daughter Elizabeth and her husband
Joseph Seeking. In the 1881 Census 6 children had been born to the
Seeking family, five girls and one boy.
John's youngest brother, Robert Nicholas and his wife Elizabeth Doughty
(nee) Burcham, appear to move around the country side from around 1850,
probably in search of work, or Robert's work required him to move
around, they lived in Ryburgh -Norfolk - Agriculture Labourer, Tottenham
- Middlesex, Plumstead - Kent - foreman of main sewer works, Purbrook,
Landport and Portsea - Hampshire - Contractor, excavator, foreman of
navies, foreman of labourers. When they arrived in Portsea they first
lived at # 2 Stanshore Lane. This was in 1871.
They had 9 'known' boys and one girl. However, the Aussie family rumour
is that there were another three sons, which we do not have their names
and they immigrated to Canada.
Robert Nicholas Doughty at last settled down after wandering around the
country side with his wife and growing family in tow and with the help
of his wife, Elizabeth became a Licensed Victualler at 'The George
Public House' at 84 Queen Street, Portsea.
In 1853 the first of the immigration of the Doughtys began. The son of
John and Jemima Doughty, John Jrn. immigrated to Australia in 1853,
arriving on the sailing ship Trafalgar with his young wife Rebecca
Doughty (nee Griffin - they had married in Norfolk) and Rebecca's sister
Sarah and her husband James Barnes. Many deaths occurred on this voyage
and also at the Quarantine Station, situated at the base of North Head
at the entrance to Sydney Harbour. This had been a voyage of horror.
Then followed sons of Robert Nicholas Doughty, first was Robert John in
1876, with his new bride (his first cousin) Hannah Doughty, who was the
youngest sister of John (who immigrated on the Trafalgar in 1853) they
sailed on the Clyde. Then James and his new bride Emma Doughty (nee
Hoare) on the Sorata in 1883. Then followed brother Henry Doughty who
arrived on the Aberdeen in 1885 and finally Arthur 21 and Charles 19 on
board the Orient in 1888.
Of the four brothers who remained behind, William the eldest appears to
have never married, lived with his parents and was a Shoemaker by trade.
John, the second eldest joined the Navy and was a Stoker on board the
'Seahorse', at dock at the Hampshire Naval Base in the 1881 Census. His
wife Elizabeth and two young children were on shore and living at 3
Pafoots Court, Portsea. John had married Eliza Jane Silvester in
Portsea on 10th March, 1874. (So many Johns and Roberts).
George Frederick Doughty, at 22 years of age, joined the London Metro
Police Force in February 1881. He was assigned to Division H at the
Police Station at 78 Leman Street, Whitechapel. He was on the beat in
Whitehall at the time of the Jack the Ripper murders. George married
Elizabeth Burcham (same name as his mother) at St Barnabas in Kennington
in Surrey in 1886. They lived right in the middle of Jack the Ripper
country at Flat 50, Rothchilds Buildings, Whitechapel - London. They
appear to have had five children, which includes a set of twins. Only
two of these children appear to have survived (though more may have been
born after 1895). By 1895 George Frederick and his wife Elizabeth and
the three surviving children Annie Beatrice, Arthur Chamberlain Doughty
and the baby Ronald Chamberlain Doughty were back in Hampshire and
living at 7 Eden Road, Southsea. Sadly Ronald Chamberlain Doughty 7
months old died on 7th March 1895 at this address, he was buried in the
grave of his grandfather Robert Nicholas Doughty at Kingston Cemetery on
The youngest of child of Robert Nicholas and Elizabeth Doughty, Alfred
was born 1872 at Landport. He did not follow his older brothers to
Australia. We do not know what happened to Alfred, being the youngest
we can assume that he may have not stayed in contact with the brothers
who left home to immigrate. Any help with information regarding Alfred
would be very much appreciated.
The only girl born to Robert Nicholas and Elizabeth Doughty, was
Elizabeth Ann Doughty, she married Frederick Nicholas on 22nd Sept 1887
at the Parish Church, Portsmouth. Elizabeth was a dressmaker. This
couple had two children, John and Ellen.
If anyone has any knowledge of these families, any information or
stories will be very much appreciated. The Australian families have
just been contacted recently by the descendants of John Doughty, the
Naval Stoker. He was one of the brothers we did not know of. I really
look forward to hearing from the Listers with any snippet of
Late of Tuesday evening in
Old Sydney Town
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