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From: John Lewis <>
Subject: Re: [King] Re: June roll call
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:48:29 +0100
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:41:31 -0500
"Robin Price" <> wrote:

> It all seems quite complicated, George Seymour and alice Hussey were
> my great grandparents, but which George and Alice.

It is very complicated and I have given up for today and been looking
at the Whale family in Ecchinswell for some light relief :-)

> 1871 census there are two Alice Husseys, one is living father John
> and sister Emma in Ecchinswell, age 5. I believe this is the one
> that married George Seymour.

Two Alice Husseys could help explain things

> The other Alice age 3 is living with grandparents William and Mary
> Hussey, also mother Fanny in Ecchinswell. Alice and Fanny have been
> mistakenly transcribe as Husley on the Ancestry website, looking at
> the image you can see why.
>
> 1881 Alice Hussey in Union House born about 1864 Itchinswell, as
> noted by John.
> 1881 Alice Hussy Born about 1867 Ecchingswell in Swan street
> Kingsclere.

One of my problems is that I use the FamilyHistoryOnline version of
the 1881 census and the search engine isn't very good. My only
windows system is a very old & slow laptop and I tend not to use it. I
can use my wife's system if she isn't using it but that isn't
very often.

>
> I think this Younger Alice married William George Hayes 1886,
> FreeBMD Kingsclere 2c 434.
>
> 1881 John Hussey with daughter Emma age 31 and two children, James 8
> and ada 2, son and daughter to John, no wife present. If John was
> Alice's father why was she in the Workhouse? This Family was living
> a few households away from a Seymour family with an unmarried
> george age 44, farm Labourer and an unmarried Walter age 25 farm
> labourer. John noted there was a Walter who was a witness of the
> marriage of Alice and George, could there be a link here?

I found this George with Henry & Hannah and wondered if he had been
recorded twice??

> Colin notes Albert Girdler and Alice 1901 "there are three
> step-children from Alice's earlier Marriage, namely, Eliza 18,
> Henry 12 and Matilda 8". This is not entirely correct, Eliza or
> Elizabeth was from Georges first marriage to Mary ann (Cummins).

Agrred that Elizabeth was from the earlier marriage


> We may find the correct George through Eliza. 1891 George and Alice
> with there Child Henry Geo. age 1 and Elizabeth 6, Rose 4 from
> George's previous Marriage, (George and Alice married in 1888)
> George is a general labourer here.

> The other George living on north street is a bricklayer. So it seems
> Alice's George was not a Bricklayer.

again I agree with this, George and Mary Ann had Arthur G age 1
in 1881 and Arthur G age 11, Ernest T age 9 and Caroline M age 5 in
North Street, Kingsclere in 1891 All children born there and this
George dies in North Street in Sep 1899.

One thing that really confuses the issue is that George at his
marriage to Mary Ann Cummins gives his abode as Woodlands and father
as Henry Seymour and the George who marries Alice Hussey also gives
his abode as Woodlands and father as Henry. The only burial I can find
for a Mary Ann Seymour was in Jun 1875 at St. Paul, Woodlands, abode
Tan House.

So there is a pattern of this George living in Woodlands except both
Georges were born in Swan Street and baptised only weeks apart. I will
re-check these baptism tomorrow.

So have I got these two Georges mixed up and the one living in
North Street was the son of Thomas and Mary Miles.

It doesn't help that half the Seymours married into the Miles family
and all the girls had similar names.

--
John Lewis,
Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

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