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From: Meg Galley-Taylor <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] John Frederic Ashworth
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:56:57 +0100
In-Reply-To: <BA972CAC-513D-47DC-9023-83BA3FF5666F@tesco.net>


My mother, who was a district nurse from 1947 onwards, used to visit a chap
right up until she retired in the late 1970's who had a received a machete
wound to his leg in a Japanese prisoner of war camp and that never healed
even with modern medicines. I think it quite likely that a bullet wound
could continue to fester for years and then as suggested, general debility
probably just got the better of him.

Meg Galley-Taylor



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Subject: Re: [ENG-LAN-BOLTON] John Frederic Ashworth

I usually search for both or use a wildcard.

I don't think it's odd for him to survive so long with the wound. In
fact I think it's the limited medical resources of the time that
would explain this.

Medical staff knew by then what caused infection, they seem to have
had a huge array of antiseptics, but obv didn't have modern
antibiotics. It could take months for a wound to heal, so why not
years? Maybe there is a doctor or nurse on the list that can give
more info.

Perhaps your grandfather went on having the wound cleaned and
dressed, then his immunity dropped and/or more infection got in to
the wound. I'm wondering whether it was cellulitis, which can lead to
blood poisoning.


Judy




On 25 Aug 2009, at 10:46, Valerie lirakis wrote:

> Hi Judy,
>
> My grandfather was born in 1881 and died in 1921 aged 40.
> Incidentally, I notice that you have spelt Frederic with a k - could
> that make a difference?
>
> Valerie
>
> 2009/8/23 judy olsen <>:
>> Where was he living and what was his date of birth. There are 34 John
>> ASHWORTHs on the Ancestry pension records. No John Frederick though.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Aug 2009, at 08:46, Valerie lirakis wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> The death certificate of my grandfather states that he died in 1921
>>> from septicaemia as a result of GSW (gun shot wounds?). Underneath
>>> this it states 5 years, which I assume means he had the
>>> condition, or
>>> was wounded, 5 years previously. This would mean that my grandfather
>>> was wounded in 1916.
>>>
>>> I was always under the impression that my grandfather was wounded at
>>> the battle of Ypres, and survived 3 years before finally
>>> succumbing to
>>> his injuries. This would make it 1918. The last battle of Ypres
>>> was
>>> late in 1918, and was fought mainly by French and Belgian soldiers.
>>>
>>> This raises 2 questions: a) would it be possible, assuming that 5
>>> years is correct, that a person would survive so long, given the
>>> limited medical resources of the time, and b) that a man in his late
>>> thirties, married with a family, would have been called up as
>>> early as
>>> 1916?
>>>
>>> It could be that the number 5 was an error and that it should have
>>> been 3.
>>>
>>> I wonder if it would be possible to find out when my grandfather was
>>> conscripted - his regiment was the Royal Lancaster's.
>>>
>>> Valerie
>>>
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