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From: "Brian Seddon" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Engineering College
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:08:50 -0500
References: <NOEEIMPIDKLFEBBKDACDOEJPCBAA.tanzer@dodo.com.au>


Liverpool Technical colleges provided good engineering training to many
apprentices of companies. You were trained by the companies also.
We were allowed one day a week off work, with pay (not large) to attend the
college to obtain the Higher National Certificate in our chosen field, in my
case Structural Engineering, and after that you could attend night school to
receive further training in your chosen field, which I did. You could then
sit the exams to obtain your engineering qualifications, such as AMIStructE,
AMIMech.E. ARIBA, etc.
In addition, if you had the money, you could go to Liverpool University.
My best friend (and best man) took Marine Engineering.
Brian (P.Eng. Ontario).


Mail scanned by Norton 2003 updated
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Tanzer" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [ENG-LIV] Engineering College


> Hi Fred,
> I don't know much about the engineering game or educational facilities in
> Liverpool, but was doing a spot of browsing at the Historical Manuscripts
> Commission site
>
> http://www.hmc.gov.uk/nra/search_nra.htm
>
> and came upon these references which may or may not be of use. You would
> probably have a better idea of what type of institution would be
> appropriate, so have a play around in this site.
>
> Would anyone be able to place these organisations in directories c. 1900s,
> or know anything about the type of learning?
>
> Cheers,
> Teresa
> >>>>>>>>>
> GB/NNAF/O33316
>
> Liverpool Engineering Society
> Liverpool, Lancashire
>
> 1885-1961 : minutes, letterbooks and papers
> Liverpool Record Office
> NRA 26513 Liverpool Engin
>
> 1 record noted.
>
> (Where reference is made to an NRA number, a catalogue is filed in the
> National Register of Archives and may be consulted in our public search
> room.)
>
> GB/NNAF/O31840
>
> Liverpool Polytechnic Society
> Liverpool, Lancashire
>
>
> 1838-98 : records
> Liverpool Record Office
> Reference : 680POL
> NRA 17185 Liverpool Poly
>
> 1 record noted.
>
> GB/NNAF/O18334
>
> Liverpool Royal Institution
> Liverpool, Lancashire
>
>
> 1813-1942 : records
> Liverpool University: Special Collections and Archives
> see Guide 1962
>
> 1894-98 : misc papers
> Liverpool University: Special Collections and Archives
> Reference : D122
> NRA 26885 Liverpool Univ Arch
>
> 2 records noted.
> <<<<<<<<<
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred H Held [mailto:]
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 2:46 PM
> To:
> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Engineering College
>
>
> My grandfather, John James Forbes, b: 23 May 1882 in Kirkdale, was a
> gratuate mining engineer before he emigrated to Canada about 1907 with his
> newlywed Emily James. His father's address in 1901 was 28 Oak St, Bootle
> cum Linacre, West Derby.
>
> Where would a person of a dock labourer family go to college to get an
> engineering degree about 1900? When we were in Liverpool in 2001 we
checked
> at the Liverpool University to see if he graduated from there and as far
as
> they can tell he did not.
>
> I should note that his father was from Aberdeenshire and his grandfather
> was a farmer in a village about 10 miles N of Aberdeen city. Also that
John
> James was not listed in the residence at 28 Oak St in the 1901 census (and
> I cannot find him elsewhere).
>
> Where else would he have gone to an engineering university? London?
> Aberdeen? Where else?
>
>
> June Held
> member L&SWLFHS (#5563)
>
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