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From: "Roslyn McKearney" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Scousology
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:35:13 -0000
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Fred Jones in hot Johannesburg said

I am from Wavertree and we speak differently there.
According to some people with well tuned ears, there different dialects of
Scouse, north/south/ east/over the water, proddy dog or catty cat. One of
the examples used was the difference between Cilla Black's (Scotland road)
accent and John Lennon's (Woolton).

Hi Fred,

I think you may have solved a real mystery for me. I have for years now
wondered why my Dad did not have what I thought was the 'typical'
Liverpudlian accent. As I have been researching my Dad, Frederick William
COOPER's 'life before me', and attempting to find out what happened to his
father, George Frederick COOPER. I have come to think there were some
possibilities as to why Dad had such a different accent. All of which could
be a possibility.

1. He attended boarding school in Wales from the age of nine. Only going
home to Wavertree, Liverpool in the the school holidays.

2. He immigrated to South Australia at the age of sixteen as a 'Barwell Boy'
in 1923. I was not born until twenty years later and he died in 1970. But I
clearly remember he sounded nothing like the Beatles, who I idolized in the
sixties or friends I have made since, who came from Liverpool in recent
years. Say twenty years ago.

I had figured that well before I was born, Dad had toned his accent down
quite considerably and he well may have but he still had certain words that
he never said the way an Aussie would.
Fair and Fir, Where and were, I always had trouble sorting out.

He would be talking about taking me to the Fair but it always sounded like
he was planning on taking me to the Fir.

Then if Mum wore her coat with tthe Fox Fir collar, according to Dad, she
would be wearing her coat with the Fox Fair collar.

Then he would ask me - Were I was going? Or, Were are your shoes?

But then it would be - The shop Where busy today.

Possibly this was his own idiosyncrasy?

I know now that Dad's beloved grandmother whom he called Maurn and whose
name was actually Margaret PARKINSON, lived at 3 Charles Berrington Road
Wavertree at the time she as Dad's guardian, signed the papers allowing him
to immigrate under the Barwell Scheme.

Do you know of this Street Fred?

Do you know if it is very far from 4 Cadogan Street? This is where Margaret
and James PARKINSON (my gt. grandparents) were living at the time of my
grandparents, Gertrude PARKINSON and George Frederick COOPER marriage.

Regards,
Roslyn McKearney - South Australia

Co-Systems Operator Cooinda BBS Riverland
Cooinda Online URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cooindabbs
McKearney's URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gerros

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