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Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] advice neededCROPPER/MUSKER
Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 22:56:52 EDT

In a message dated 5/2/2003 3:45:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
writes:

Hello Syl,

Not sure that I have anything at all, for you, but I would like to share with
you what I have, if I may?

I have William CROPPER b Unk married Ellen JUMP 22 Aug 1824, St. Nicholas.

They had 10 children:
Mary 22 Aug 1824, John b 1826, William b 1827 c 9 Dec 1827, Elizabeth b 1829,
c 11 Sep 1829, William b 1831 c 25 Dec 1831, Joseph b 1833 c 27 Nov 1833,
Frances b 1835 c 6 Dec 1835, James b 1839, Thomas b 1842 c 22 May 1842

James CROPPER married Mary
Census: 1881 Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancs., England, PRO RG11/Piece3692, Folio
112, page 5
Dwelling: 53 Berry St.
Cropper, James head age 40 Joiner Liverpool
, Mary wife age 38
Liverpool
, Sarah dau age 16
Liverpool
, Margaret E. dau age 10 Scholar Liverpool
, William J. son age 9 Scholar Liverpool
, Mary dau age 7 Scholar Liverpool
, George R. son age 5 Scholar Bootle
, Samuel son age 2 Bootle
, Rebecca dau age 1 Bootle
Moody, Edith L. visitor age 16 School Teacher Newport,
Shropshire

Census: 1901 Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancs., England, PRO RG 13/ Piece 3459, Pg
100
Cropper, James head age 60 Joiner
Liverpool, Lancs
, Mary wife age 56
Liverpool, Lancs
, Rebecca dau age 21
Bootle, Lancs
, Sarah dau age 35
Liverpool, Lancs
, Ellen dau age 19
Liverpool, Lancs
, Samuel son age 22 Journeyman Joiner
Bootle, Lancs
, Walter son age 16 Joiner Apprentice
Bootle, Lancs

Mary Cropper b 31 Dec 1873 married George Joseph MUSKER 21 May 1899. I have
only found 1 son for them, Walter George MUSKER b 1905

Regards,
Can anyone give some help here?
Marjorie in NV, USA


> Hi Listers
>
> I have just spent several hours at the History Shop without success. I
> hope someone can offer advice on the next step I could take.
>
> 1) I recently received my grandfather's birth certificate. He was
> born in 1880 in the West Derby area of Liverpool. His name was William
> Cropper. His father (also William Cropper was born in Liverpool in 1856
> (painter) and his mother was born in 1855 and was named Elizabeth
> Harper. My problem is I have researched quite a few years prior to 1880
> before the birth of their son to establish a marriage date I have gone
> back as far as 1874. There was only 2 William Croppers listed that may
> have fitted the bill, one from West Derby and one from Liverpool, but
> neither reference numbers cross-reference with Elizabeth Harper. Can
> anyone help?
>
> Also I have two children from another family whose birth year is
> recorded as being 1886. I can find no matching reference numbers if
> they were twins. If they were born at different times within the same
> year I still cannot find any matching or closely matching info. As far
> as I know they were born in the Toxteth Park area of Liverpool. Their
> parents were William Hughes and Elizabeth Thompson. They had several
> children.
>
> Any help or advice on where to search next would be most welcome.
>
> Kind regards - Syl from UK
>
>

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