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From: "William E. Gard" <>
Subject: Ships or boats?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:48:18 -0700
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>Subject: ? Deaths at sea Francis CAVANAGH
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>Hi List
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>Looking for the death of Francis Cavanagh, we think in late 1860 or
>early 1861. His son Francis died in Oct 1860 and on the death cert it
>stated that his father was a stoker on a steam boat. In the 1861 census
>he isn't listed and Elizabeth Cavanagh is a widow. Cannot find any
>other entries for a Francis Cavanagh, so we are thinking maybe he died
>and was buried at sea. Any help would be appreciated.
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>Regards
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>Kay
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>From: judy olsen <>
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>Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] ? Deaths at sea Francis CAVANAGH
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>A steam boat as opposed to ship sounds like a coastal vessel, in
>which case I think it would be unlikely that he was buried at sea. I
>suggest you check records in other coastal districts if you havent
>done so and also Scottish records at Scotlandspeople. You can use the
>indexes to narrow down the search before you spend any money.
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>Did the father register the death - if not there is the possibility
>that he was already dead himself.
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>
>Judy


Ship or boat? Doesn't make much difference. Ships/boats went from
sail to sail with steam assistance, to steam to motors. Steamer is
still often used. It was steam that was developed in the boilers
that was used to drive the ship/boat. Prefixes - RMS....Royal Mail
Steamship (one granted the right to carry Royal Mail), s.s.
(steamship), m.v. (motor vessel). You'll note that not many
ships/boats carry a prefix. Also, don't confuse tramps and
liners. A tramp can be a very gracious vessel that "tramps" from
place to place carrying various cargoes. A liner can be a scruffy
old boat but is used to operate between given points, running a line
from A to B as it where.

Bill in Nanaimo

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