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From: "Wendy Mills" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Re: Thomas SWAIN Salford
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:50:28 +0800
Hi there Mike,
Thanks for checking for me for Thomas Swain. I don't have his birth cert or
baptism. This is my problem.
I have his marr cert. 30 April 1876 says he is 22 years father Thomas Swain
residing at 42 Queens Cres. in the county of Middlesex. Born approx 1854
on 1881 census he has his age at 27 - birthplace Salford Lancashire
Census place is Hanswell Midlesex
Dwelling St Mks Rd Tolson Villa Born approx 1854
I also have a railway document from Western Australia Dated Oct 1885 he
states his birth at 28 years 9 months Born approx
1857 (Feb) ??
2nd Marr cert he says he is 57 on 14 Dec 1916 Born approx 1859??
I also have his death cert it dated 20 July 1930 aged 69 Born approx 1861
Take your pick.
I did find a Thomas Swain marriage to Ellen Douglas Thomas in Hudderfild
vol 7a page 362
and Ellen Leicster vol 7a page 436 ??? Nothing seems to match - I don't
know if these two are his parents. I also found another marriage between a
Thomas Swain Manchester vol 8d page 183 and Ellen Douglas Manchester vol 8d
page 270 ??? Once again I don't know if these two are his parents.
Any more suggestions.
I thought if I could find his parents maybe that will help.
Thanks Mike any ideas.
Wendy West Oz.
>From: "Mike Berrell" <>
>Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Re: Thomas SWAIN Salford
>Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:52:57 -0000
> > I checked the Salford 1861 refs for SWAIN/E - just 2.
>I also checked Hulme & Moss Side, Chorlton on Medlock, and Didsbury, these
>being the only areas indexed.
>I didn't find a Thomas SWAIN with parents Thomas and Ellen SWAIN.
>I didn't look for the surname DOUGLAS.
>Do you have his birth certificate? or his baptism? What is the address?
>Were his parents married? Do you have his marriage certificate?
>I would suggest finding him in other census years and confirm his place of
> > Could sks look up 1861 census in Salford for Thomas Douglas SWAIN
> > Thomas Swain and Ellen/Helen Douglas. His birth is c 1853/54. The 1881
> > census states his birth in Salford. He is my difficult one. Please
> > Regards
> > Wendy West Oz.
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