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From: "Gordon Evans" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 2,Issue 112- Mitchell again
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:45:44 -0000
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Hi Wendy

>It was NOT William Jones or Mitchell I found as 'Nurse child", it was his
>possible Mother - Jane Jones in 1951 a 7yr old. She & her Mother Jane are
>very hard to trace in '51 & '61.

But William's mother was Ellen, not Jane, surely?

1851 Census
HO 107/2181 folio 715 page 3
1 Court, 1 House, New Bird Street, Liverpool
Thomas LYONS, head, 47, rope maker, LAN Liverpool
Isabella, wife, 37, LAN Liverpool
Catherine, daur, U, 20, LAN Liverpool
Henry SMYTH, lodger, U, 51, lock porter, IRELAND
Sarah, lodger, U, 21, servant, IRELAND
Ellen HORSNER, lodger, U, 23, dressmaker, London
Jane WISE, nurse child, 6 months, CHS Birkenhead
Ellen JONES, nurse child, 7, LAN Liverpool

New Bird Street is off St James Street, in the shadow of the Anglican
Cathedral. Was less than half a mile away from Wolfe Street, where Jane
McCABE (nee JONES) and her 17 year-old daughter Ellen were living at the
time of the 1861 Census?

Regards
Gordon

From: "wendy miles" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 2,Issue 112-
Mitchell again


> >With the greatest respect, William MITCHELL's age was given as 19 in
> >1881,
>>29 in 1891 and 39 in 1901, indicating that he would have been born some
>>time
>>between May 1861 and April 1862?
>>So why would you expect him to feature as a nurse child in the 1861
>>taken on 7 April that year?.
>
> Thanks Gordon for the mental shake! Doing too many things at once with
> hope born of desparation caused that last bloop,including a "George
> Evans"working at "BullsHead "Hotel in 1901- it was of course Fairfield
> Hotel in Birkenhead.
> It was NOT William Jones or Mitchell I found as 'Nurse child",,it was
> his possible Mother -Jane Jones in 1951 a 7yr old. She & her Mother Jane
> are very hard to trace in '51 & '61. Every one knew a Jane Jones b. in
> 1863-64...Still cannot find an official marriage for her & Thomas Mitchell
> so perhaps they just jumped over the broomstick or something similar.
> Thanks all for being there to read & assist when you can. I must try
> elsewhere.
> cheers Wendy M.


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