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From: "Richard H. Turner" <>
Subject: Re: [SHEFF] ENG-SHEFFIELD Digest, Vol 1, Issue 38
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:39:27 +0100
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Donna - this is not unusual where a child has been baptised soon after birth
at home by a parent or midwife or other person - often, though maybe not
always, because its health is dodgy and it might not survive until a baptism
has been arranged at church.

Later at the church the godparents and parents and priest have come together
to acknowledge the fact that the child has been baptised, and what name it
has been given, and who the godparents are and that they are taking on that
responsibility, and that the child is now part of the Christian community.
The words you ask about mean that the priest, Julius D., has supplied the
ceremonies, i.e. made sure these extra bits have been carried out as they
would have been had the child been baptised in church in the normal way. It
isn't re-baptised as you can only be baptised once and it doesn't have to be
a priest who does it, though there are certain things that have to be done,
and the priest might conditionally baptise if he thinks these haven't been
done, e.g. pouring of water and baptising in the name of God the Father, Son
and Holy Spirit.

Similar entries are sometimes found in Anglican registers - there it often
says 'Received into the Church' or 'Congregation'.


Richard Turner


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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. SAUNDERSON Family (Webmaster)
> 2. FW: PRIVATE BAPTISM (Ioannes)
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> Pauline asked about schools in Darnall
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> Sheffield Archives hold details of Greenlands First School Darnall, 1904 -
> 1953 - originally Darnall Temporary Council School, then Whitby Road
> Junior and Infant School.
> Catalogue Ref. CA 35/726-734
> Sheffield Archives
> 52 Shoreham Street
> Sheffield
> S1 4SP
> England
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> Tel: 0114 203 9395
> Fax: 0114 203 9398
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> Sue
> http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk
> http://www.whistonweb.co.uk
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> http://www.ulleyweb.co.uk
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> Reference Code: CA 35/726-734
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> Greenlands Nursery First School, , records
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> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:57:33 +0100
> From: "Ioannes" <>
> Subject: [SHEFF] FW: PRIVATE BAPTISM
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> You seem to have a mix of Latin and other words Ego means 'I', so the
> first
> bit reads "I Julius Deboere" the next two works I'm not sure of and I've
> looked them up
> in my Latin dictionary but with no luck. However the second of the two
> words
> could
> be Supplico meaning to kneel down, humble oneself, pray humbly or
> supplicate.
> The last bit with translate to "this day 3 July 1998
>
>
> Sorry I cannot help beyond that other than to say that it's a strange
> Baptism
> inscription. There is now Latin word for baptism such as Baptizatorum,
> baptizat or
> baptizata est/erat, in the sample text. If I were you I'd get the wording
> checked to
> see if it has been transcribed correctly.
>
>
> Regards
> John
>
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>> > -----Original Message-----
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>> > Sent: 27 September 2006 03:14
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>> > Subject: [SHEFF] PRIVATE BAPTISM
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>> > Hi Everyone:
>> >
>> > I have a baptism at St Marie's RC Church in Sheffield. It has Private
>> > Baptism on it and "Ego Julius Deboere Ceremonial Supplier die 3 July
> 1998".
>> > Does anyone know what that means. Spelling may be wrong.
>> >
>> > Thanks you for any help.
>> >
>> > Donna in Ontario, Canada
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