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From: "Judy Last" <>
Subject: [B'ham] St Bartholomews, Edgbaston
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:36:38 +0000

Thank you Brian and Mary for your suggestions. I am not aware that George
and Maria HANSON were married by licence, but your explanation Brian was
very interesting and helps with an earlier relative who married by licence,
and explains why they may have done so.

I am really still no wiser as to why George and Maria married at St
Bartholomews, and am working on the possibility that Maria PARKES may have
come originally from the Edgbaston side of Birmingham and had family
connections there. I have only just found this marriage and haven't done
any research on Maria as yet.

Thanks for the replies.

Judy


>From: "Brian Cave" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: Re: [B'ham] HANSON/PARKES marriage query
>Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:07:39 +0100
>
>"Marriage licences were issued so that marriages could take place without
>the necessity for banns to be called. This was useful if both parties were
>away from their normal place of residence, or if the parties did not wish
>to
>wait for the three week period during which the banns were called. It was
>also something of a status symbol to be married by licence - it avoided
>what
>was regarded as a private family affair being proclaimed to all and sundry.
>The Licence was granted by the Bishop of the diocese in which both parties
>lived. If they lived in different dioceses other rules applied but
>surviving
>documents can usually be found in the records of the diocese where the
>marriage took place.
>A licence gives names, places of residence, whether single, widow or
>widower, ages, parishes, in the case of minors, parents and their consent,
>and the place where the marriage was to take place."
>
>Quoted from "The Family Historian's Enquire Within", by Pauline Saul &
>F.C.Markwell, pub FFHS in 1985.
>
>From my experience, the status symbol bit was a very popular reason, even
>in
>quite modest families. Hope this helps
>Brian
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary McLean" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:54 AM
>Subject: RE: [B'ham] HANSON/PARKES marriage query
>
>
> > Hi Judy,
> > I have found marriages of people from central Birmingham at St
> > Bartholomews Edgbaston, St Peters Harborne and St Marys Handsworth. It
>could
> > be that at that time they were just pretty country churches and there
>were
> > fewer churches around at that time.
> > I have also found marriages of people, both living in Handsworth getting
> > married at St Philips in the centre of Birmingham
> > I am not sure how strict the church was at that time about residing in
>the
> > Parish. It doesn't look as though they were.
> > Perhaps Banns had to be read at their own Parish Churches.
> >
> > It's just done to make our lives more difficult in trying to find them
> > really !
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Judy Last [mailto:]
> > Sent: 01 May 2002 10:33
> > To:
> > Subject: [B'ham] HANSON/PARKES marriage query
> >
> >
> > My gt gt grandparents GEORGE HANSON and MARIA PARKES were married in St
> > Bartholomews Church, Edgbaston, in December 1838. As far as I know they
> > were both living centrally in Birmingham at the time. Can anyone
>suggest
> > why the marriage might have taken place in Edgbaston?
> >
> > I do also have another set of gt gt grandparents who also married at St
> > Bartholomews - JOHN NICHOLLS and SARAH MACKAIN. This time the marriage
>took
> > place in 1837. They also lived in central Birmingham but as they were
> > Baptists I believe they were unable to marry in their chapel (Cannon
>Street)
> > and I presume this is why they chose Edgbaston.
> >
> > But why George HANSON and Maria PARKES married in Edgbaston is a
>mystery.
> > They were both C of E.
> >
> > Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Judy
> > Torquay, UK
> >
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