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From: "Maurice Sheppard" <>
Subject: Re: [B'ham] re clocking on
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:58:54 +0200
No problem at all, Alan. I just thought I'd throw it over to my cousin to
see what he came up with!
Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages
----- Original Message -----
From: "alan smith" <>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:52 PM
Subject: [B'ham] re clocking on
> Thanks for your interest and prompt reply, Maurice,
> William Gilbert does go back a little further than that, in fact, my
> source of reference is Clockmakers of Birmingham, by Joseph McKenna,
> who lists Gilbert at different addresses from 1846. The first is Farm
> St and my ancestors lived with him and were employed by him from around
> that date. McKenna says that "by 1875 altho the directories reveal
> there were 21 clockmakers only six were in fact actually manufacturers.
> The rest were assemblers or importers." He lists the six and Gilbert
> is among them.
> McKenna lists Henry Moon as being a clock and watchmaker at three
> addresses from 1861 to 1896.
> My grandfather, his father and his father are all described in various
> censuses as master clockmakers but who decided their ranking is, of
> course, unknown..
> My grandfather completed 50 years with Henry Moon's company and as a
> token of appreciation they gave him ..... a clock. (Probably one he'd
> made himself).
> Can I just say I am not arguing with you, Loomes or Britten, just
> trying to break through that 1841 barrier. I see that there were many
> Gilberts from the Tamworth area and I'm wondering if mine came from
> there. I'm also intrigued as to why there should be such a collection
> of clockmakers in Ninevah, Staffs, on the outskirts of Bham.
> Thanks once again for your help,
> regards Alan.
> Here you Alan:-
> William Gilbert was active in Birmingham from 1854-68. Henry Moon was
> a dial maker (would be painted dials for longcase clocks) who was in
> business in Birmingham from 1868-80, according to Loomes; according to
> his book 'Painted Dial Clocks', Henry Moon made bezels and materials
> from 1870-80. I should imagine that Gilbert was just a minor player;
> maybe he made up clocks from standard bits, but couldn't make a go of
> it - or even died. Neither are listed in Britten
> Hope that helps!
> Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages
> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/
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