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From: "Heather Robertson." <>
Subject: Re: [WES] Steel Family For Andrew
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:03:07 -0500
References: <20050227144650.27273.qmail@web25108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


Hello Andrew,
Your Emails are very interesting. Yes Hannah is at the farm you
mentioned. Interestingly enough, she had an illig. son, Matthias in 1899
place of birth Skelsmurgh. Whether she was working there at that farm at
the time, I don't know. Do you know where Elizabeth, the daughter is in
1901? I presume that Hannah's brother Joseph must have met Elizabeth
through her! Anyway, Hannah went on to marry Edward Mallinson in 1903. Was
he the father? Or was one of the Steel's the father of Matthias? We will
never know! Thankyou for all the info.I would like Elizabeth's family
line. if you have it and you have time . Please just send it anytime . No
rush.
Thankyou again, for all the interesting items about the Steele's
Hope you enjoyed Florida.
Heather (Canada) Expecting a snow storm tonight!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Ellwood" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WES] Steel Family


> Hi there Heather,
> I too am not directly related to the
> Steeles- I think we are both in a position of looking
> into a family that "married in " to our own families.
> Its interesting none the less to find out more about
> people who were directly involved with our direct
> ancestors. Its also nice to be able to add an extra
> line or two to the extended family tree- quite often
> it is very difficult to get much information past the
> 1901 Census into more recent times.
>
> Anyway back to the Steeles of Burneside. I think
> (although I cannot be 100%) that they came originally
> from Appleby. I cannot find John Steele on the 1851
> Census (I wonder whether he had by then passed away-
> certainly his wife Mary[nee Ellwood was no longer
> living by then.} I have not scanned the 1841 Census to
> see him. In the 1829 Parson and White Directory
> however John is recorded as being a tenant farmer at
> "Sparrowmire" in Strickland Kettle which is close to
> Burneside. In the 1851 Census John and Mary's son
> Thomas is recorded as farming at Sparrowmire.
>
> The reason I believe that the Steeles were from
> Appleby but then moved to Burneside is that [I think
> ]John had a brother called Lancelot who married Betsy
> Ellwood (Mary's sister.) I cannot be 100% certain of
> this theory but certainly Lancelot was from Appleby-
> he gives his place of birth as Bongate (a district in
> Appleby) in the 1851 Census( residing at Garnett House
> Strickland Kettle.) Both Lancelot and John appear to
> have had children who were born in Appleby. Looking at
> the Census entries for both John and Lancelot's
> families it looks as if they were mostly --(in the
> 19th century anyway) relatively prosperous tenant
> farmers. If you want a family tree for John and
> Lancelot I can send you a copy on a PDF file.
>
> Finally I think I may have spotted your Hannah
> Wilkinson on the 1901 Census. She appears to be
> staying at Gilthwaiterigg Farm at Skelsmergh.
> Skelsmergh is a district to the East of Burneside-she
> was staying at the farm of John's father Richard
> Steele. Hannah gives her place of birth as Witherslack
> West.
>
> Hope this info is of interest,
>
> Best wishes,
> Andrew
> "Heather Robertson." <>
> wrote:
> > Hello Andrew,
> > Sorry for the delay in answering. Sometimes my
> > children get to the
> > computer before me! Yes, I would love to know more
> > about these Steels"s Do
> > you know of any descendants alive today? I actually
> > phoned a Steele family
> > in Burneside, and spoke to a very nice lady who was
> > interested and took my
> > number down. But she couldn't recall Hollins Farm
> > or any of the names.
> > Also, in 1901 Joseph's sister, Hannah Wilkinson was
> > working for this family
> > on a farm,(don't have the name handy). My
> > connection is not direct,but this
> > Wilkinson family has become my project, as they have
> > been so interesting!
> > Joseph's father, Matthias, was my gt. gt.
> > grandmother, Eleanor Jane
> > Wilkinson's brother.
> > Thanks ahead of time,
> > Heather (Canada)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Ellwood" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WES] Steel Family
> >
> >
> > > Dear Heather,
> > > I was interested in your email
> > concerning
> > > the Steele Family. I too have been researching
> > this
> > > family. I have traced back from your Elizabeth
> > Steele
> > > through to John Steele (born Liverpool 1859) to
> > his
> > > father Richard Ellwood Steele (baptised April 1829
> > > Burneside) through to his father John Steele and
> > > mother Mary Steele (baptised Mary Ellwood December
> > > 1786 Long Marton near Appleby.) Richard Steele is
> > > mentioned in his grandfather's(William
> > Ellwood)Death
> > > Duty Register as a beneficiary of his will.
> > William
> > > Ellwood is a direct ancestor of mine. Let me know
> > if
> > > you want any more info on the Steeles and
> > Ellwoods.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Andrew Ellwood
> > >
> > > --- "Heather Robertson."
> > <>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have been reading the Steel EMails with
> > > > interest. I have this family in my line. I
> > wonder
> > > > if you have the same family in yours, in
> > particular
> > > > the Wilkinson connection to the Steels.
> > > >
> > > > Joseph Wilkinson married Elizabeth Steele in
> > > > Burneside Kendal in 1913.Her father was John
> > Steele
> > > > born in Liverpool, wife Annie,they married in
> > > > Burneside 1885 children Richard Parker Steele,
> > > > Elizabeth , Jane 1896 died 1914. They lived at
> > > > Hollins Farm Burneside. The parents of John
> > Steele
> > > > are Richard Steele and Elizabeth Wilkinson.
> > > > Anyway, if you recognize any of these I would
> > love
> > > > to hear from you.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Heather (Canada)
> > > >
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