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From: Jennifer McKemie <>
Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Presenting pictures in a list - looking for a betterway...?
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:37:37 -0400
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Ian Singer <> wrote:

> On 9/26/2010 2:06 PM, Jennifer McKemie wrote:
> > I'm working on a page today that is turning out a little awkwardly. It
> has
> > an unordered list and then within the list some smallish pictures. I
> would
> > like the text to wrap around the pictures and for there to be a break
> > between the list items, so as to show that an image is with a particular
> > list item/description. But what is up now doesn't look good, in my
> opinion.
> >
> > Here is the page in question:
> >
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mckemie/onenamestudy/francismakemie/index.html
>
> Any time you put pictures within a flow of text and readability IS going
> to be disrupted.
>
> My first thought was make them all hyperlinks and all the pictures would
> be on a separate page, but in your case I think it would would work out
> better to have the text on the left in a frame or column and the
> pictures on the right in a frame or column all sized to fit the column.
>

Yeah, was leaning this way...


> Do not make the pictures big enough to be able to read the plaques,
> but make them large thumbnails that are clickable to go to full screen
> size. Edit and crop the Francis Makeme. Loose all the background, crop
> the plaque to lose the frame so it rectangles up. Don't assume if it is
> in colour it has to stay that way. If greyscale makes more readable go
> for it.
>

I like the idea of making the images small enough to get the curiousity
going.


>
> Oh and on your page you have too many blank lines below the rootsweb
> banker.


Not sure what the "banker" is...the default header or footer from Rootsweb?
On my view (IE) it lines up well, not a lot of space anywhere...however, I
have not yet viewed the pages with any other browsers...if you are seeing a
lot of space with Explorer, perhaps you could take a screenshot to better
illustrate?


> Also the list of links following is too long and totally takes
> away from all the text below.


Again, not sure about this? Sounds like I may have a browser issue...cause
there are only three sets of links on the page..one across the top that is
two rows, one along the left side, and one along the bottom that is also two
rows. If you are seeing them in long lists, something is not coming through
correctly, and again, I would greatly appreciate knowing what browser is
viewing the page and a screenie would be awesome.


> Make the list two or three columns. When
> someone goes to the page they want to see the content and at the moment
> all they see is up to the Family Group links, which is the same as
> seeing nothing. Why are you wasting space and showing them the date? If
> they want to know the date all they need to do is look in their Windows
> task bar. Figure out what the purpose of you page is and follow that
> purpose. On my screen I have 168mm of vertical space to see your
> content. USE IT. You realize you are using 35mm overall to advertise
> your hosting site, when you can change hosts, not have a banner and pay
> zero per month. At the bottom you are using 18mm for your e-mail address
> and for a website that isn't even the site we are on. Plus you have a
> bullet for the e-mail address on gmail, so why show it twice?


I print pages out, personally, when I am roaming the 'net. When I find
something of interest, something related to a project, whatever, I very
often print it out. Sometimes I can go back to the page, should I need to,
but many times it is gone by the time I decide to revisit it. If I have a
contact email, that makes things slightly easier, a slightly greater chance
of actually reaching the person regarding whatever data or question I have.
So, assuming that I am not the only person who prints things out, I want my
email on every page of the site...if it is only the clickable "contact"
link, it will not appear on the print out. However, if it's just written
there in the normal way, the spam bots suck it up and I am inundated with
crap. An image solves that issue, at least in part. The name of the site
is on every page for essentially the same reason...and as someone else
pointed out, when directing people to the site, it is tremendously easier to
say mckemie.org than the long freepages addresses. Paying or not paying is
a personal choice :) While the Francis page is not the main page, it's part
of the mckemie.org site, so still fitting.


> Also after
> the DNA link you just have a bullet with no reason for it to be there.
>

Not on my viewing...again, this is frustrating me, as it certainly needs to
be viewable by the different browsers...or I need to figure out why I would
see something different on my viewing...

>
> The land survey is a .jpg, but is too small to read, and isn't clickable
> to enlarge. When I open it in Irfanview I see it is dated 1984 when for
> some reason I had just assumed it was a historical document from the
> 1800's.
>

Yeah, this is still in progress :) It's in the wrong place, too, beneath
the NY reference, when it should be up with the pyramid. And it needs to
be minimized to a reasonable downloadable size, too!

>
> Please don't take offence at my comments, they are not meant that way.
>

Absolutely NO offence taken! On the contrary, I thank you most kindly for
taking the time to look and then write your thoughts up! And they are very
helpful, to boot!

>
> Ian Singer
>
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Jennifer McKemie
www.mckemie.org
My family coat of arms ties at the back....is that normal?

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