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From: "Settle, Wendy" <>
Subject: RE: [GARDNER-UK] Sophia Gardner
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:39:06 -0800


Val,
I am not sure how Australia works, but are there census records like
England and the United States has?

I was lucky in that I had the telescope and I knew that my
gggg-grandfather came over. Nothing else was known about the family
since they came over. I found by luck and lot of people helping me so
don't give up.

You said that you know when they died, so you can start looking on the
familysearch.org for those possible years and don't rule out anything.

My ancestors were listed on that as Gardiner but on the original
christening records, they were written very clearly as Gardner.

Brothers were christened in two different churches 100 miles away from
each other. I am assuming they went to visit after the twins were born
along with their oldest son. The oldest son and one of the twins died
and were buried in the church.

Don't give up and you can always ask me things to help.

Wendy

-----Original Message-----
From: Val Gardner [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:34 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GARDNER-UK] Sophia Gardner

Dear Wendy,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I must say that you have a great deal
of
information on your family and you must have done a lot of research into

your family background. Unfortunately for me, I started looking for my
forebears too late in life and I have not been able to get very much
information at all. You are no doubt aware, that in the early days of
Australia, a lot of our population was made up of convicts, not convicts
in
the sense that we know today, but a minor theft then got you 7 years
penal
servitude. Our records of the free settlers were not very well kept and
I
have not been able to trace when my GGfather and GGmother came to this
country, but will keep on trying. It was very kind of you to give me the

information you have, but I do not know enough of my own family to
enable me
to know whether there is any connection.
Thank you once again for your kindness and I appreciate very much the
information you have given me.
I wish you and yours all the very
best
of good health and happiness in 2005 and, God willing, the years ahead.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Settle, Wendy" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:18 AM
Subject: RE: [GARDNER-UK] Sophia Gardner


> Val,
> Doesn't look like there is anything but I still am looking into
> things. I have a John Gardner who was christened Mar 24, 1799 in
> Painswick but I don't know if he died or married and his parents were
> Samuel and Mary.
>
> The only Robert I could find in what I have traced so far was one that
> died in 1757 and his parents were Gamaliel & Elizabeth. They had
eleven
> children and only three of them were listed on Gamliel's will dated in
> 1792.
>
> Gamaliel's father was Samuel. Gamaliel had some brothers, Samuel,
Job,
> David, Aaron, Phillip, Daniel birth dates from 1692 to 1709. I think
> Daniel had a son, Richard who was apprenticed in 1748. Daniel was
> listed on the apprentice clothworker as being the son of Richard,
late,
> so Richard died before 1748 and was born in 1709. I am assuming since
> Daniel was apprenticed to Gamaliel, that Daniel was his nephew.
>
> Since I don't know anything else on the family of these, I couldn't
tell
> you if they had children and if we would be related.
>
> They moved so much around that it is hard to tell.
>
> They were in Stroud, Painswick, St. Helen's, St. Leonard's, Bethnal
> Green and Lambeth.
>
> In 1823, Mary Gardner was listed as a friend on a will of Philip
Hyatt's
> and living in Lambeth, her son, James, daughters; Marie & Sophia were
> listed with their married names of Crowther. Sophia, (Samuel's
sister)
> was also listed as a spinster from Bethnal Green. I don't know why
> Henry, Thomas and John were not listed unless they died or just were
> gone.
>
> I know Henry was still alive since is my ggg-grandfather and he was
born
> in 1789. His two sons, were Henry George and Charles William. His
wife
> was Elizabeth Bradley but I have not found a marriage record for them.
> We don't know if they had more children. They came over in 1851 to
New
> York.
>
> Samuel, Gamaliel, Samuel were clothworkers. Henry was listed as a
> Gentleman on all the census records and christening records. Charles
> William was a banker, postmaster, justice of the peace until he passed
> in 1903.
>
> I have a telescope that has been handed down from Lord Nelson given to
> Samuel's son, James Baynton Gardner. The transcription is written
from
> Lord Nelson. James B Gardner died in 1823 and far as I can tell,
never
> married.
>
> There have been a lot of stories regarding this family.
>
> If you could find some possibilities where John was born, you could
get
> the christening records to try to give you some clues. I found that
> Bradley was Elizabeth's maiden name according to the death record for
> Charles.
>
> Wendy (Gardner) Settle
> Washington State
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Val Gardner [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:20 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GARDNER-UK] Sophia Gardner
>
> Hello Wendy,
> I am interested in the Gardner family. I am trying to locate family of
> my
> Great G Father John Gardner who I understand was born in London about
> 1816.
> His father was Robert Gardner and his mother was Jane, maiden name
> unknown.
> John married Ellen Robinson in Hobart Town in 1836, and both John and
> Ellen
> died in Melbourne, in 1874 and 1895 respectively,does this ring a bell
> as
> far as your family is concerned. I would be very grateful to hear from
> you
> one way or the other.
> Kindest regards,
> Val Gardner.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Settle, Wendy" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:18 AM
> Subject: [GARDNER-UK] Sophia Gardner
>
>
>> In the 1843 Post Office, there is couple of Gardner's I am hoping
>> someone can look them up in the 1841 census.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sophia Gardiner & Co - Milliners 121 Whitechapel High Street.
>>
>> Elizabeth Gardner - wholesale Glover 3 Barbican
>>
>> Henry Gardner - Black Bull P.H. 95 Whitechapel
>>
>>
>>
>> Could someone look up the 1841 census for these Gardner (Gardiner)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wendy
>>
>>
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