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From: Colin Garvie <>
Subject: 18. Garvies of Scotland: Perthshire, Perth-Trinity Gask
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:27:56 +0200


** PERTH, PERTH
Perth is undoubtedly the hub of Garvie family history. It
is the major city of Perthshire and fairest of Scotland, and a
history far too romantic to describe here. The Garvie presence
must date to the early 17th Century. Their story remains to be
researched and told. Many of their descendants remain in this
fair city. Floods swept through the city in 1621, 1740, 1773,
1814, 1847 and 1849. A plague in 1645 (see Allan Ramsay's
BESSIE BELL AND MARY GRAY). Cholera visited Perth 1832. (See
Sir Walter Scott's FAIR MAID OF PERTH).
Recorded Families.
JOHNE GARVIE m. ISSOBELL MARSHELL 16??: ISSOBELL b.1657, JOHNE
b.1663, ISSOBELL b.1665.
JAMES GARVIE m. ELSPETH MCCALLAM 16??: ELSPETH b.1694, KATHRINE
b.1696, JANIT b.1699, JAMES b.1701, JOHN b.1703, ELESBETH
b.1708.
PATRIK GARVIE m. AGNAS ROBERTSONE 17??: JAMES b.1716, PATRIK
b.1718, AGNAS b.1721, KATRINE b.1723.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. ISOBILL DUNCAN 1716: BETRICH b.1718, THOMAS
b.1721, ELISBETH b.1722.
JOHN GARVIE m. ELSPETH BURGES 1725: PATRICK b.1726, JANET
b.1728, DAVID b.1732, ANN b.1735, ? b.1737, JOHN b.1743.
JOHN GARVIE m. KATHRINE BROUN 1734: ANN b.1736, PATRICK b.1738,
KATHRINE b.1749.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. ANN PATON 1742: WILLIAM b.1742, JOHN b.1744.
THOMAS GARVIE m. CATHERINE SUTT (or Sutherland) 1756: BARBARA
b.1758, ANNA b.1760, CATHERINE b.1766.
JAMES GARVIE m. JEAN GARVIE (WATT?) 1771: JAMES b.1772, THOMAS
b.1775, JAMES b.1777, JOHN b.1779, WILLIAM b.1781, ROBERT
b.1783, ALEXANDER b.1786, JEAN b.1789, JEAN b.1791.
JAMES GARVIE m. ANN WILLIAMSON 1774: ANN b.1775, JOHN b.1777,
ISABEL b.1779, ELISABETH b.1781.
PETER GARVIE m. ISOBEL GICKIE 1775: JAMES b.1776, JOHN b.1781,
JAMES b.1784, JEAN b.1786, JOHN b.1789, NELLY b.1792, THOMAS
b.1794, ANN b.1797.
THOMAS GARVIE m. JANET RATTRAY 1780: JANET b.1781.
CHARLES GARVIE m. MARY HENDERSON 1781: ANN b.1783, HELEN
b.1785, JAMES b.1787, JOHN b.1789, MARY b.1792, JANET b.1795,
MARGARET b.1798.
THOMAS GARVIE m. JANET JOHNSTON 1782: JOHN b.1782.
JOHN GARVIE m. ISABEL URCHAR (or Orchart) 1785: AGNES b.1786,
ALEXANDER b.1788, MARGARET b.1789, JOHN b.1791, GEORGE b.1793,
JAMES b.1795, GEORGE b.1797, THOMAS b.1798, ISOBELL b.1800.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. JANET SCOTT 1785 (also read in Methven): ANN
b.1786.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. JANET FENWICK 1785 recorded in Methven:
GEORGE b.1786, WILLIAM b.1787, JOHN b.1789, RHODAN b.1790,
ROBERT b.1792, JEAN b.1794, MARGARET b.1796, DAVID b.1798.
JAMES GARVIE m. JANET BLACK 1788: JAMES b.1793, PETER b.1795.
JOHN GARVIE m. LILLIAS READY 1798 recorded in Auchtermuchty:
JEAN b.1798, WILLIAM b.1801, JOHN READY b.1803.
LAURENCE GARVIE m. HELEN MELDRUM 1802 (see under Aberdalgie
where other children were born). JAMES b.1803.
JAMES GARVIE m. ELIZABETH GRAY 1807: JOHN b.1808, ANN b.1810.
JOHN GARVIE m. ISOBELL MUIR 1810: JOHN b.1811, AGNES b.1813,
HELEN ANN b.1817, ISABELLA b.1821.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. JEAN WATT 18??: ROBERT b.1812, WILLIAM
b.1814, MARY b.1816, JANET b.1819, JEAN HAY b.1829.
JOHN GARVIE m. MARY MIRK 1814: JOHN b.1815, JAMES b.1817, MARY
b.1819, ALEXANDER b.1820, HELEN b.1822, DAVID b.1824, WILLIAM
b.1826, THOMAS b.1828.
ROBERT GARVIE m. JANET DOUGLASS 1816: MARGARET b.1818.
THOMAS GARVIE m. ELIZABETH PATERSON 1816: WILLIAM b.1817,
ISABELL KINMONTH b.1818, GEORGE b.1820, JOHN b.1822, THOMAS
b.1824, ELIZABETH b.1827.
ALEXANDER GARVIE m. JEAN FERRIER 18??: JOHN b.1816, ANDREW
b.1818.
JOHN GARVIE m. HELEN SCOTT 1818 also recorded in Scone: ANN
b.1819, JANET b.1822, HELEN b.1823, WILLIAM b.1825, THOMAS
b.1828.
GEORGE GARVIE m. ISABEL MUNRO 1804 recorded in Kinnoull where
ISABEL (1805), GEORGE (1808), MARGARET (1810), THOMAS (1812)
were born. Born in Perth: MARY b.1829, MONRO b.1820, JOHN
b.1822.
JOHN GARVIE m. MARGARET CLARK 1827 recorded in Scone: JOHN
b.1829, ELIZABETH WALLACE b.1832, JAMES b.1837. A MARGARET
b.1835 is recorded in Kinoull. John was a brewer. The daughter
Margaret married Walter James Spragg, a farm servant in
Australia. Margaret went to the Little River area near Geelong,
Victoria, Australia sometime in 1854.
JAMES GARVIE m. CHRISTIAN BARLASS 1846: JOHN b.1847, MARY ANN
b.1851, CHRISTIAN b.1855, ISABELLA b.1857, JULIA ANN COOLL
b.1860, WILLIAM BARLAS b.1863.
ANDREW GARVIE m. ISABELLA BROUGH 1847: ANDREW b.1848, ALEXANDER
b.1851, GREGORY MARRIOT b.1856, JOANNA ARNOTT STEWART b.1860,
ISABELLA b.1864.
JOHNSTONE GARVIE m. JANE FISHER 1854: GRACE CHISHOLM b.1855,
JANE WATT b.1857, BETSY FISHER b.1860, EUPHEMIA MALCOLM b.1863,
JANET SHARP b.1865, JOHNSTON b.1867. MARGARET b.1869 and
ALEXANDER b.1871 are recorded in Dundee.
JAMES HAY GARVIE m. AGNES JOHNSTONE 1855: ROBERT b.1856,
WILLIAM b.1858, JOHNSTON b.1860, GEORGE b.1862, JOHN b.1865,
AGNES b.1867, JEAN b.1870.
JAMES GARVIE m. HARRIET MCLEAY 1855: LAURENCE b.1855, JOHN
b.1857, JAMES b.1858, HARRIET b.1861, ISABELLA b.1863, MARGARET
DRY b.1867, LAURENCE b.1870.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. ELIZABETH JANET HEWAT 1859: JANE b.1860,
HELEN b.1862, JOHN b.1863, KIRKWOOD HEWAT b.1864, WILLIAM
b.1867, ELIZABETH JANET b.1869, THOMAS b.1870, BEATRICE b.1872,
JAMES BEATSON b.1875.
DAVID GARVIE m. ISABELLA PETTERS 1861: DAVID b.1863, MARY
b.1865, JAMES b.1866, HELEN b.1868, MARGARET ANN b.1870,
WILLIAM b.1873, JEANEY SIDEY STEWART b.1875.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. HELEN SMITH 1862: ROBERT b.1862, JAMES
b.1864, WILLIAM b.1866, MAGGIE JANE b.1874. RICHARDSON (1869),
GEORGE MURRAY (1871), JOHN HOWIE (1873) are recorded in St
Nicholas, Aberdeen.
JOHN GARVIE m. MARGARET HAY 1867: MARGARET RUSSELL b.1868,
JAMES b.1869, MARY b.1871, WILLIAM b.1873, BETSY MCGREGOR
b.1875.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. MARION HALLEY 1868: JAMES b.1869, ROBERT
HALLEY b.1875.
JOHN GARVIE m. ANN REID 1873: ELIZABETH b.1874.
THOMAS WYLLIE GARVIE m. ISABELLA ROBINA MACKINTOSH DUFF ????:
JANET LOGAN (1904) (the contributor of several items in this
paper), JOHN b.1910 d.1984, MARGARET HAY b.1912 d.1969, ISABEL
b.1923. Thomas Wyllie Garvie had four brothers and three
sisters: MARGARET, JIM, AGNES, WILLIAM, ROBERT, ANDREW and
HELEN (Submitted by Jenny Kittles - Janet Logan Garvie).
OtherRecorded Events: JANNET GRAHAME b.1621 to WILLIAM
GARVIE/[PERTH, PERTH]; JANET b.1643 to LAURENCE GARVIE/[PERTH,
PERTH]; JEAN b.1684 to JAMES GARVIE/ANN WILLIAMSON (1784? see
above); JANIT GARVIE m. JAMES HUSBAND 1716; KATHARIN GARVIE m.
HUGH ARCHBALD 1725; MARGARET GARVIE m. WILLIAM MILLER 1727;
MARGARET GARVIE m. WILLIAM MILLER 1727; JANET GARVIE m.
ALEXANDER PRAIN 1727; ELSPETH b.1727 to PATRICK GARVIE/ANNA
ROBERTSONE; MAY GARVIE m. JOHN PROUDFOOT 1739; ISABELL b.1741
to JOHN GARVIE/[PERTH, PERTH]; PETER GARVIE m. HELEN GEDD 1742;
JANET GARVIE m. DONALD STEWART 1742; JANET b.1743 to JAMES
GARVIE/JANET MACKIE; MARGARET b.1743 to PATRICK GARVIE/KATHRINE
BROUN; ANN b.1744 to JOHN GARVIE/MARGARET MATHEW; JEAN b.1748
to ALEXANDER GARVIE/[PERTH, PERTH]; DAVID b.1751 to JAMES
GARVIE/MARGARET MATHEU (see JOHN GARVIE/MARGARET MATHEW above);
MARGARET b.1752 to JOHN GARVIE/MARGARET MACKIE; JAMES GARVIE m.
MARGARET BRUCE 1758; LUCIA GARVIE m. ALEXR. STUART 1760; THOMAS
GARVIE m. ELIZABETH BELL 1760; JAMES GARVIE m. ANN BURN 1761;
ANN GARVIE m. JOHN TRAILL 1764; MARY GARVIE m. CHARLES SCOTT
1768; JEAN GARVIE m. JAMES GARVIE 1771; ISOBEL GARVIE m. DAVID
HUTCHISON 1772; BARBARA GARVIE m. ROBERT BUCHAN 1775; ANN
b.1777 to WILLIAM GARVIE/MARGARET MACGREGOR; ISOBELL GARVIE m.
JOHN GREIG 1780; CATHERINE GARVIE m. ROBERT MARSHALL 1782;
WILLIAM GARVIE m. JANET PULLAR 1784; CHRISTIAN GARVIE m.
ALEXANDER PATON 1784; ANN b.1788 to JAMES GARVIE/JANET GLASS
(see under Kinnoull); JANE b.1790 to JAMES GARVIE/ANN SHIELLS;
WILLIAM b.1796 to JAMES GARVIE/ELIZABETH MACKIE; JANET GARVIE
m. JOHN BURGES 1798; CHRISTIAN GARVIE m. DANIEL HUGO 1799; ANN
GARVIE m. DAVID MILLER 1799; ANN GARVIE m. JOHN NIELSON 1804;
MEY b.1807 to LAURENCE GARVIE/MARGARET BEAT; JOHN GARVIE m.
ELIZABETH MACDONALD 1813; THOMAS GARVIE m. MARGARET FOWLES
1814; ANN GARVIE m. ALEXANDER TAWS 1816; JANET GARVIE m. GEORGE
RUTHVEN 1817; MARGARET GARVIE m. DAVID RATTRAY 1820; MARGARET
GARVIE m. DAVID HENDERSON 1821; ANN GARVIE m. DANIEL GOW 1821;
MARGARET GARVIE m. WILLIAM CUTHBERT 1824; LAURENCE GARVIE m.
ISABELL STEWART 1827; HELEN b.1830 to JOHN GARVIE/HELEN FINN;
ISABELLA GARVIE m. ALEXANDER MACINTYRE 1835; ANN GARVIE m.
JAMES BEATSON DEAS 1838; ISABELLA GARVIE m. ALEXANDER MACINTYRE
1839; JEAN GARVIE m. HUGH MACKAY 1839; HELEN GARVIE m. PETER
STEWART 1845; ALEXANDER GARVIE m. JEAN WYLIE 1847; JANET GARVIE
m. WILLIAM LAURIE 1848; JANET GARVIE m. JOHN SHARPE 1848; GRACE
GARVIE m. DAVID LAMOND 1852; JAMES VALENTINE b.1855 to
?/ELIZABETH GARVIE; ALEXANDER BELL b.1857 to ?/SUSAN GARVIE;
ELESBETH GARVIE m. JAMES MCDONALD 1859; JAMES GARVIE m. JANET
RICHARDSON 1860; THOMAS GARVIE m. JESSY CAMERON 1861; AUGNES
GARVIE m. ANDREW PATRICK 1861; JOHN b.1861 to JOHN
GARVIE/MARION MC LEOD (see Auchtergaven); ELISBEATH GARVIE m.
THOMAS SHARP 1864; AGNES CHRISTIE b.1864 to ?/JESSIE GARVIE;
SUSAN GARVIE m. ANDREW LAING 1865; JESSIE GARVIE m. WILLIAM
MCKENDRICK 1866; ELIZABETH GARVIE m. JAMES SINCLAIR 1866;
CHRISTINA GARVIE m. JAMES CHALMERS 1866; THOMAS GARVIE m. JANE
A. WHYTE 1868; JESSIE GARVIE m. HENDRY MCKAY 1868; JANE b.1871
to PETER GARVIE/JANE SHARP; JANET GARVIE m. DAVID MCDONALD
1873.
Additional Contributions:
JIM GARVIE of Perth reports that his great grandfather was
JAMES GARVIE who had either four or five sons including PETER,
WILLIAM and GEORGE by a first marriage (the Peter and William
are possibly the two brothers who served in the SA War
described in Tullibardine's A Military History of Perthshire
1899-1902) and FRANCIS by a second marriage. There was also a
DAVID in the family[1].
ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND GARVIE write[2]s that her father
JAMES GARVIE (d.1917) was a native of the city. He had three
brothers, DAVID, JOHN and WILLIAM, and three sisters, MAGGIE,
NELLIE and JANE. James had three daughters, ELIZABETH, DORA and
KAY.

** PERTH, REDGORTON
A panoramic parish bounded by other traditional parishes
of the Garvies of Perthshire: Auchtergaven, Scone, Methven, and
Moneydie.
Recorded Families.
JOHN GARVIE m. ? 17??: CHARLES b.1757, WILLIAM b.1759, JOHN
b.1761, ? b.1763, THOMAS b.1767, ANN b.1776.
WILLIAMM GARVIE m. MARGARET GREGOR 1771: JANET b.1762, JOHN
b.1778. And probably ANN b.1777 in Perth.
JOHN GARVIE m. ISABEL YOUNG 18??: JANET b.1814, HELEN b.1817.
ALEXANDER (1822) and PETER (1826) baptized in Auchtergaven.
ALEXANDER GARVIE m. MARY MILLER 1823: MARY b.1827.
THOMAS GARVIE m. JANET ANDERSON 1827: THOMAS b.1827.
Other Recorded Events: HELEN b.1751 to WILLIAM GARVIE/[PERTH,
REDGORTON]; JANET GARVIE m. JO.JAMIESON 1766; JOHN GARVIE m.
MARGARET TAYLOR 1782; ? b.1811 to JOHN GARVIE/[PERTH,
REDGORTON]; MARGT. GARVIE m. WILLIAM CULBERT 1824; JEAN GARVIE
m. WILLIAM MURRAY 1824; ANN GARVIE m. PETER STEWART 1827; ANN
GARVIE m. HENRY MCKENZIE 1847; ELIZA GARVIE m. JAMES MCINTOSH
1861.

** PERTH, RHYND
Rhynd where the Tay reaches between 1 to 4 furlongs wide.
Recorded Family.
JOHN GARVIE m. ANN MURRAY 1779: ELIZABETH b.1780.
Recorded Marriage: DAVID GARVIE m. ELIZABETH DOW 1770 (see
Kinnoull).

** PERTH, SAINT MARTINS
St Martins with extensive plantations and interesting
antiquities.
Recorded Family.
DAVID GARVIE m. BARBRA MANN 1817: MARY b.1818, ISABELLA b.1820,
JAMES b.1822, JOHN b.1824, DAVID b.1826, WILLIAM b.1828. DAVID
(1817) was christened in Scone.
Recorded Marriage: MARGT. GARVIE m. GEORGE WAST 1763.

** PERTH, SCONE
Scone, traditionally the place of origin of the Garvies of
Perthshire. It has an ancient and interesting history best
known being the myth of the Stone of Destiny or Coronation
Stone, claimed to be Jacob's pillow at Bethel, which after
having being passed into the possession of Scota, daughter of
Pharoah, was eventually brought through Spain and Ireland to
Scone.
Recorded Families.
JOHN GARVIE m. ? 17??. This family grouping probably represents
two families, possibly a father and son (the John b.1737):
MARJORIE b.1724, MARY b.1725, JANET b.1728, DA b.1730, ANN
b.1733, JOHN b.1737, WILLIAM b.1739, GRISEL b.1743, PATRICK
b.1746, JANET b.1750, JEAN b.1752, ELIZABETH b.1754, ANDREW
b.1758, JAMES b.1759, JAMES b.1760, DAVID b.1767, ROBERT
b.1768, MAREY b.1770, ANN b.1773, ? b.1783.
WILLIAM GARVIE m. ? 17??: ISABELL b.1751, PATRICK b.1753,
MARGARET b.1754, ANN b.1755.
DAVID GARVIE m. ? 17??: JAMES b.1753, MAREY b.1755, DAVID
b.1757, JOHN b.1758.
ANDREW GARVIE m. GIRSAL DOW 1782: WILLIAM b.1788, JOHN b.1791,
MARGARET HENRY b.1793, JAMES b.1795. ELIZABETH (1783) and
ROBERT (1785) christened at Kilspindie.
JOHN GARVIE m. MARY GOW 1818: JAMES b.1818.
JOHN GARVIE m. AGNES GORRY 1827: JOHN b.1834, MARY b.1828. A
JOHN was recorded in Kinclaven in 1826 but presumably died in
childhood.
JAMES GARVIE m. MARY SOMMERVILLE 1833 (also read in
Auchterarder): HELEN BALMAIN b.1834, ANDREW b.1835, ANDREW
b.1836, HELEN BALMAIN b.1836, MARGARET b.1837, JAMES
SOMMERVILLE b.1839, MARY ANN b.1842, JANET b.1844, GRACE
b.1846, JANE b.1848.
JAMES GARVIE m. AGNES SMITH 1842: AGNES b.1841, ELIZABETH
b.1844. A JAMES (1842) was recorded in Barry, Angus; JESSIE
(1847), PETER (1851), MARY ANN (1853) and JAMES (1855) in Kin-
noull.
JOHN GARVIE m. BETSY CRUIKSHANKS 1845: ELIZA b.1845, DAVID
b.1849, JOHN b.1854, WILLIAM b.1858, CHRISTINA b.1862, MARY ANN
b.1864.
JAMES GARVIE m. JANET RICHARDSON 1860 recorded in Perth. Birth
of JAMES (1861) was recorded in Cargill. JACOB GOW b.1863, JOHN
b.1865, ISABELLA MARY b.1868. WILLIAM b.1873 recorded in Govan,
Lanark.
OtherRecorded Events: ALASONE GARVIE m. 1639; ALEXANDER GARVIE
m. MARGARET SIM 1875; ANDRO GARVIE m. MARGARET MATHESONE 1636;
THOMAS b.1737 to PAT. GARVIE/[PERTH, SCONE];JOHN GARVIE m. JEAN
BROWN 1743; MARY GARVIE m. PETER BLAIR 1748; ANNE GARVIE m.
JOHN REID 1763; CHARLOTTE GARVIE m. JAMES ROBERTSON 1764; JOHN
GARVIE m. MARY RUNSIMAN 1766; ISOBEL GARVIE m. DAVID HUTCHEON
1772; JEAN GARVIE m. GEORGE KID 1775; ISOBEL GARVIE m. JOHN
ALLAN 1780; DAVID GARVIE m. BARBARA MANN 1817 (see St Martins);
JOHN GARVIE m. HELEN SCOTT 1818 (see Perth); MARGARET GARVIE m.
PETER MURRAY 1821; JOHN GARVIE m. MARGARET CLARK 1827 with
children in Perth and Kinnoull, which see); ELISABETH GARVIE m.
JOHN MACINTOSH 1834; ISABEL GARVIE m. JOHN GALL 1842; JOHN
GARVIE m. MARGARET HUTCHEON 1842; ALEXANDER b.1850 to PETER
GARVIE/MARGARET COCHRANE; ELISABETH GARVIE m. ANDREW WHITTET
1868; ISABEL b.1870 to JAMES GARVIE/JEAN ELDER who were married
Kinfauns 1863; ISOBEL GARVIE m. JOHN INGLIS 1891.

** PERTH, TIBBERMORE
Tibbermore, meaning "a great well", is bounded by other
traditional "Garvie parishes": Scone Perth, Methven and Redgor-
ton. It was here that the first battle between the Marquis of
Montrose and the Covenanters was fought in 1644.
Recorded Family.
JOHN GARVIE m. JANET ALLAN 1696: KATHRINE b.1698, JANET b.1700,
JEAN b.1702, MARY b.1704, AGNAS b.1706, WILLIAM b.1708.
OtherRecorded Events: KATHARINE GARVIE m. HUGH ARCHBALD 1725;
GEORGE GARVIE m. JEAN GARVIE 1728; JEAN GARVIE m. GEORGE GARVIE
1728; JEAN GARVIE m. THOMAS TYLER 1729; THOMAS GARVIE m. ANN
DOW 1795 (see Methven); LAURENCE b.1830 to DAVID GARVIE/JANET
McGLASHAN; ELIZABETH GARVIE m. JOHN MCOWAN 1850.

** PERTH, TRINITY GASK
A Strathearn parish of Perthshire.
Recorded Families: None.
Recorded Marriages: JOHN GARVIE m. CATHRINE ROBERTSON 1729;
JAS. GARVIE m. JANET HUTTON 1812 (see Aberdalgie).

**FOOTNOTES**

[1]: Garvie J. Letter 27th April, 1988. 19 Castle View, Perth PH1 2JW.

[2]:Garvie E S 1988. Letter 23rd May, 1988, 72 Wilson St, Perth PH2 0EY.

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