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From: "Michael Palmer" <>
Subject: KNABELE to NY, 1828
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:36:16 -800

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, "Blazek" <> wrote:

> I am trying to find the ship an ancestor immigrated on. The only clue
> I have is from the family Bible where it says "Left Germany May 1, 1828.
> Arrived New York June 20, 1828." As I don't know the ship's name, port
> of departure, and the New York ships are not indexed for that time
> period, does anyone have ideas where I should start looking? The only
> other things I know is his approximate age (27) and that he was born in
> Wurttemburg.

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, she added, in private e-mail:

> The name of the ancestor is ANDREW KNAEBLE/Knable/Kneble/Knoble,
> arrival age approximately 27. He may have been alone. Other family
> members possible. According to family Bible he had a brother PHILLIP,
> who also came to the U.S., probably at the same time. May have had
> parents also (?). The dates in the Bible say left Germany May 1, 1828;
> arrived New York June 20, 1828.

Andrew Knabele, age 28 years, male, laborer, from "Prussia", arrived at
New York on the evening of 19 June 1828, on board the Bremen brig
CONSTITUTION, J"urgen Meyer, master, from Bremen 4 May, with merchandise
to C. Meier & Co; there were 4 cabin passengers and 23 in steerage.
Source: abstract of the passenger manifest, dated 20 June 1828, in
Elizabeth P. Bentley, transcriber, _Passenger Arrivals at the Port of New
York, 1820-1829; From Customs Passenger Lists_ (Baltimore: Genealogical
Publishing Co, 1999), p. 695. You should check this published information
against the microfilm copy of the original passenger manifest, which you
will find on National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, roll 11, list
#317 for 1828. You can borrow a copy of this microfilm through Heritage
Quest (http://www.heritagequest.com), any LDS (Mormon) Family History
Center (Family History Library microfilm #0002256), or Interlibrary Loan.
(You should not be disturbed if even the original passenger manifest gives
Andreas's origin as "Prussia", even if you have documentation that he
originated in W"urttemberg: those who drew up the passenger manifests
that were presented to the U.S. Customs officials often made mistakes when
giving passengers' places of origin, giving the place of origin only for
the passenger at the top of each page of the manifest, and marking all the
succeeding names with a ditto, regardless of where they originated.)

The CONSTITUTION was a 2-masted, square-rigged brig, built by the
shipwright Johann Lange, of Vegesack/Grohn, for the Bremen-New York packet
service of Bremen firm of H. H. Meier & Co, and launched on 21 October
1820. Masters, in turn, were Gerd Klockgeter, J"urgen Meyer, Johann
W"achter, and J. F. Volckmann. The CONSTITUTION was wrecked sometime in
1833; she was replaced by a 3-masted, square-rigged bark of the same
name, launched by the same shipwright for the same owners in November
1833.

No picture of this vessel is known to survive.

Source: Peter-Michael Pawlik, _Von der Weser in die Welt; Die Geschichte
der Segelschiffe von Weser und Lesum und ihrer Bauwerften 1770 bis 1893_,
Schriften des Deutschen Schiffahrtsmuseums, Bd. 33 (Hamburg: Kabel,
c1993), pp. 164-165, no. 64.

Michael Palmer
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Michael Palmer
Claremont, California

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