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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: Ranulf de Glanville revisited
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 1990 07:50:38 -0700


John Ravilious wrote:
>
> Tuesday, 29 August, 2000
>
> Hello Ray et al,
>
> While continuing the search for ancestors unknown, in particular the
> ancestry of Alianora de Glanville [wife of Sir John Wingfield, d. 1358 and
> ancestress of many on this list via the de la Poles], I came across a post
> from February 1999 on the subject of Ranulf de Glanville. While continuing the
> search, I came across the following work on the web:
>
> _Records of the Anglo-Norman House of Glanville from A.D. 1050 to 1880
> By Wm. Urmston S. Glanville-Richard, Esq. (London: Mitchell and Hughes
> 1882)_
>
> *on WWW at: http://cbr.nc.us.mensa.org/homepages/jglanville/roanhg1.htm*
>
> There is quite a bit of documentation cited in the work (properly or not,
> accurately or not) to prove several lines connected to Ranulf de Glanville,
> Justiciar of England (d. ca. 1190). One which 'appears' legitimate is as
> follows (as an AT):
>
> 1. Joan 'fitz' Randolf, m. Robert de Tateshal, Lord Tateshal (d. 1298)
> [sister of Mary, wife of Robert de Neville of Raby, d. 1271]

CP
>
> 2. Randolf or Ralph fitz Randolf, of Middleham, co. York, d.ca.1270
> 3. Anastasia de Percy

CP under Tateshal, p. 651., confirms this.
>
> 4. Ranulf fitz Robert, of Middleham
> 5. Mary le Bigod

Dtr. of Roger, Earl of Norfolk.

The Genealogist, NS3:31 etseq., Original Pedigree of Tailbois and
Neville confirms this.

> 6. William de Percy, d. 1245
> 7. Joan de Briwere
>
> 8. Robert fitz Ranulf, of Middleham, d. ca. 1185
> 9. Hawise de Glanville, d. ca. 1 Mar 1194

Same source.
> 10.
> 11.
> 12. Henry de Percy, d. 1198
> 13. Isabel de Brus
> 14.
> 15.
>
> 16.
> 17.
> 18. Ranulf de Glanville, Justiciar of England, d. bef 21 Oct 1190
> 19. Bertha de Valognes or Valoins

Same source.

Kay Allen AG
>
> The second, which seems less likely, is as follows:
>
> Snipped.

>
> Has anyone vetted either or both of these lines, or can anyone
> categorically validate or refute either?
>
> John
>
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