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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: Cromwell
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 1990 20:05:54 -0700


Sorry, Rosie, but my numbers 4 through 32 are taken from CP 3:551. No
Ralph died 2 March 1298/9 it was #16 who died shortly before 2 March
1298/99. His son, #8 Ralph was 7 when his father died. No death date is
given for #8. Then #4, his son Ralph d. 1364. CP says
specifically that #2 is great-great-grandson of # 32. I counted it
out, all generations are where they should be: #4 is father; #8 is
grandfather; #16 is greatgrandfather and #32 is great-greatgrandfather,
Please re-read it, I feel that you will find that you are mistaken.

Kay Allen AG

Colin Bevan wrote:
>
> According to CP III, p.551 there was a Ralph who died in 2 Mar1298/99 in
> between 4 and 8.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rosie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kay Allen AG" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 1990 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Cromwell
>
> > This is what I have in my data base which is different by at least one
> > generation from what Ed Mann posted.
> >
> > 1. Elizabeth = John de Clifton. She d. 1393/94.
> > 2. Sir Ralph Cromwell, b. bef. 1354, of Cromwell , Notts.; d. 27 August
> > 1398.
> > 3. Maud Bernake of Tattershall, Lincolnshire; d. 10 April 1419.
> > 4. Ralph Cromwell; d. bef. 28 October 1364.
> > 5. Amice Bellers, of Kirby Belers, Leicestershire.
> > 8. Ralph Cromwell, b. 1291/92.
> > 9. Joan de la Mare.
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about her ancestry?
> >
> > 16. Ralph Cromwell; d. before 2 March 1298/99.
> > 32. Ralph Cromwell, b. bef. 1255; d. bef. 18 September 1289.
> > 33. Margery de Somery. His first wife was Mazera de Marmion.
> > 64. Ralph Cromwell.
> > 128. Ralph Cromwell.
> > 256. Hugh Cromwell.
> > 512. Haldane Cromwell.
> >
> > Kay Allen AG
> >
> >
> > Richard Ledyard wrote:
> > >
> > > CP Vol. 3, p.551 shows the 2nd wife of Ralph de Cromwell (d.1289) to be
> > > Margaret, daughter of Ralph de Somery. Somewhere I came up with
> Elizabeth,
> > > wife of John de Clifton, to be their daughter. This line, according to
> my
> > > notes, dies out.
> > > CP Vol 3, p.308 (?) shows the wife of John de Clifton to be Elizabeth,
> > > daughter of Ralph de Cromwell. by Maud, daughter of John Bernak of
> > > Tattershal, Lincs.
> > > Her dates indicate that where ever I got the the first item, it is at
> least
> > > a couple of generations off.
> > > I'd appreciate any help.
> > > Thank you.
> > > Dick Ledyard
> > > Any
> >

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