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From: Todd A. Farmerie< >
Subject: Re: CONTINUING TO KICK AROUND POOR OLD ROLLO
Date: 13 Jul 1995 23:31:02 GMT


In a previous article, (Ulf Larsson) says:

>Anders Berg <> wrote:
>> (Todd A. Farmerie) writes:
>
>>> Haarek (Eric) I also held Sweden (according to Haworth) and placed his
>>> brother Bjorn on that thrown, but later Haarek took it back. These two
>>> probably gave rise to the Eriks and Bjorns in the Swedish royal descent
>>> from Ragnar Lodbrok. The Emund of Birka that appears about half way from
>>> Lothbrok to Erik the Victorious was a historical contemporary, and probably
>>> rival, of Haarek I.
>>

Oops, I was thinking of Olof here, and not Haarek, that Emund was rival of.

>>Haarek (Hrek) the same as Eric (Erik)? I don't think so.
>>Eirkr and Hrekr are both old Scandinavian names in there own right.
>>Maybe Haworth was fooled by the fact that Erik early was latinized
>>Hericus.
>>About Haworth, who is he and what sources is he using? I
>>haven't heard of Haarek's Swedish adventures. Bjorn (Bjrn), is
>>that supposed to be the same as the one Ansgarius met on his
>>Swedish missionary trip?
>>
>In "Vita Angarii" written by Ansgars succesor (as bishop of
>Bremen-Hamburg,) Rimbert about 860-880. Haareks Swedish
>rule is not mentioned. Before Ansgars second trip in about
>851, Haarek is said to have helped to introduce Ansgar to the
>Swedish king Olof but Olof is not said to be subortinated
>to Haarek. A "former" Swedish king with the name Eric is
>metioned in passing .

Haworth identifies this former King Eric with Haarek, making him, Bjorn,
Olaf, and Halfdan the Black all sons of Godfred/Gudrud. I think he did
more damage than good in the long run.

>A detailed description is given of an
>attach on Birka by an expelled Swedish king named Anund is given.
> Anund is posslibly the son of Eric who could be the brother of Bjorn.

Any particular reason for Anund being son of either of these?

>Anund has in addition to his own 11 ships a larger danish
>fleet (33 ships?) under his command at the attach on Birka
>but it is not said that the danish force is provided by Haarek.
>

Todd

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