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From: Chris Bennett <>
Subject: Re: German DFA line
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:00:28 -0800


Yes, its not Settipani's or Augustan, though its closely related; it
appears to draw heavly on Toumanoff. The Skleros/Mamikonian connection I'm
not immediately familiar with. I'm very busy right now, but I may be able
to get to this in a few weeks -- I'd be interested to hear STewart's
opinion. Did the Genealogie article quote sources?

Chris

>I thought I might send this line (which I mentioned previously)
>for possible comments. It comes from a German article by
>
>W. Regula, Genealogie Bd.22 H.3/4 1995
>
>Sorry it is partly in Polish - but hopefully it is not difficult
>to read. Regula shows two other Western descents from (9).
>
>1 Irena (Maria) bizantyjska, + 1067.
> x Wsiewolod I kijowski, wielki ksiaze kijowski.
>2 Pulcheria Sklerina, * before 1020, + miedzy 1041 i 1042.
> x Konstantinos IX Monomachos, cesarz bizantyjski 1042, + 1055.
> (wdowiec po: N.N..)
>3 Basilios Skleros.
>4 Romanos Skleros, wyst. 976/988
>5 Bardas Skleros, antycesarz bizantyjski 976 i 987.
>6 Gregoria Mamikonian.
> x Niketas Skleros, strategos.
> alternatywnie: Photeinos Skleros, syn Leona Sklerosa, strategosa
>7 Basilios Mamikonian, rektor.
>8 Bardas Mamikonian.
>9 Konstantinos Mamikonian.
> x before 840 Pancalo Bagratidina, *Adrianopol, c. Ashot
> (?) Bagratid.
>10 Hmayeak Mamikonian, przybyl 780/787 do Bizancjum
> x N. Gnuni, + before 791, c. Leon V Ormianin Gnuni i Theodosia
> Karan-Pahlavid.
>11 N. Mamikonian.
>12 Artavasde Mamikonian, strategos Thema Anatolii 778.
> przybyl do Gruzji 771
>13 Hmayeak Mamikonian, patrikios 703-712.
> byc moze = Theodor Myakes, 703-712 patrikios
>14 N. Mamikonian.
>15 Vasak Mamikonian, wyst. 555
>16 Hmayeak Mamikonian.
>17 N. Mamikonian.
>18 Hamazaspian Mamikonian.
>19 Sahakanoysch Gregorid.
> x Hamazasp I Mamikonian, wielki konnetabl 387-432, s.
> Artavasdes-Artaschir III (?) Mamikonian.
>20 Vasak I Wielki Gregorid, ksiaze Gruzji 373-438, + 9 VII 438.
>21 Narses I Wielki Gregorid, ksiaze Gregoridow 355-359, 367-373, *
> before 330.
> x Sandoukht Mamikonian, c. Vardan I Mamikonian.
>22 Athenogenes Gregorid.
> x Bambischu Arsakid, c. Chosroe III Arsakid.
>23 N. Arsakid.
> x Hesychius (Yousik) I Gregorid, prymas Armenii 342-348, * before
> 305.
>24 Tiridates IV Wielki Arsakid, pierwszy chrzescijanski krol Armenii
> 314, wyst. 298-330
>25 Chosroe II Waleczny Arsakid, krol zachodniej Armenii 279/280-287,
> zamordowany 287.
>26 Tiridates II Arsakid, wyst. 216/217-252
>27 Chosroe I Arsakid, krol Armenii 191-216/217.
>28 N. z Iberii (Gruzji).
> x Vologases II (IV) Arsakid, krol Armenii 180-191 i arcykrol
> 191-207/208.
>29 Pharasmanes III z Iberii, krol Iberii (Gruzji) 113-185.
>30 Rhadamistes z Iberii, krol Iberii 132-135.
>31 Pharasmanes II z Iberii, krol Iberii 116-132.
> x Ghadana Artaxiad, c. Vologases I (?) Artaxiad.
>32 Amazaspes I z Iberii, krol Iberii 106-116.
>33 Mithridates I z Iberii, krol Iberii 58-106.
>34 Pharasmanes I z Iberii, krol Iberii 1-58.
>35 N. z Iberii, ksiezniczka iberyjska.
> x Kartam Kondjid.
>36 N. Artaxiad.
> x Pharnabazes II z Iberii, krol Iberii 63-30 pne.
>37 Tigranes II Wielki (?) Artaxiad, krol Armenii 95-56 pne.
> x Kleopatra z Pontu, c. Mithridates VI Eupator z Pontu.
>38 Tigranes I Artaxiad, krol Armenii 123-93 pne.
>39 Artaxiades Artaxiad, seleukidzki strateg Armenii p. 200 pne i krol
> Armenii 188-p.161 pne., zapewne syn Zachariasza
>40 Zariades Orontid (?), strateg Sophene p.200-190 pne i krol Sophene
> 190- pne (?).
>41 Xerxes I Orontid, krol Armenii.
> x before 212, Antiochis Seleukid, c. Seleukos II Kallinikos
> Seleukid i Laokide Seleukid.
>42 Arsames I Orontid, krol Armenii p.260-p.228 pne.
>43 Samos I Orontid, krol Armenii c260- pne (?).
>44 Orontes III-II (?) Orontid, krol Armenii c317-c260 pne.
>45 Mithranes I Orontid, krol Armenii 331-c317 pne, perski satrapa
> Lydii i Mysii i satrapa macedonski.
>46 Orontes II-I Orontid, perski satrapa Armenii c361-331 pne.
>47 Rhodogune Achaemenid.
> x ok. 401, Orontes I Orontid, perski satrapa wschodniej Armenii
> 401-344 pne, + 344.
>48 Artaxerxes II Achaemenid, arcykrol Persii 404-358, + 358.
> ur. 452 pne
> x Stateira Hydarnid, c. Hydarnes III Hydarnid.
>49 Ochos (Darius II Nothos) Achaemenid, arcykrol Persii 424 pne, +
> 404.
>50 Artaxerxes I Achaemenid, arcykrol Persii 465 pne, + 424.
> x (1), N.N..
> x (2), N.N..
> x (3), Kosmartydene z Babilonii.
>51 Xerxes I Achaemenid, arcykrol Persii 485 pne, zamordowany 465.
> ur. 521/520 pne
>52 Dariusz I Wielki Achaemenid, arcykrol Persii 522 pne.

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