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From: Patrice Schadt <>
Subject: Re: Desc. of Adelheid of Louvain & Duke Simon of Upper Lorraine
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:02:34 GMT
Thank you so much for the information that you provided on the family of
Matheus. I have gone over the Lorraine file of Paul Theroff. It has been
quite helpful. As the information develops on my "Sophia problem", I will
glad share the developments with you.
At 06:48 PM 1/12/97 EDT, you wrote:
> All my information on the families who ruled Lorraine
>comes from earlier postings by Paul Theroff at:
>members.aol.com/ptheroff/genfiles The Lorraine file may not be
>there anymore, but I think you may be able to track them down
>elsewhere on the net.
> Anyway, the wife of Duke Simon I of Lorraine is given as
>Adelaide, dau. of Ct Baldwin of Hainault. Their son Matthias I,
> d. 1176, who married ca 1138 Bertha, dau. of Duke Friedrich II of
>Swabia, had children:
> Simon II d. 1207, m. Ida de Vienne
> Fredrich I d. 1204, m. Ludmilla of Poland
> Matthias de Toul d. bef. 1208, M. Beatrice de Dampierre
> Dietrich, Bishop of Metz, d. 1181
> Judith, m. Etienne de Bourgogne
> Adelaide m. Hugues III de Bourgogne
> Sophie - no information about her is given.
> I, too, would like to see the mystery of Sophie resolved, as I
>have another Sophie of Lorraine in my charts as the daughter of
>Fredrick I of Lorraine! Not to mention many other individuals
>named "of Upper/Lower/ Lorraine/Lotharingia/Alsace" drifting
>about parentless in my files.
> cheers, Judith Sanders
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