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From: William Addams Reitwiesner< >
Subject: Re: Ancestry of Shah Ismael I of Persia
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:14:14 GMT


(Leo van de Pas) wrote:

>
>>When I've only used Paul Theroff's genfiles, there probably are a lot of
>>blancs to fill in here...... Could there possibly be a chance of a link
>>back to great old Charlie somewhere? And what about the connections to
>>the Georgian Kings?
>>
>Charlemagne 742-814
> I
>Louis the Pious, 778-840
> I
>Lothar I, Emperor, 795-855
> I
>Ludwig II, Emperor, 825-875
> I
>Ermengard, 853-896
> I
>Guille/Wille de Provence, 878-
> I
>Rudolf II, King of Burgundy
> I
>Aelis/Adelheid of Burgundy 931-999
> I
>Otto II Holy Roman Emperor 955-983
> I
>Mathilde of Saxony
> I
>Richeza de Lorraine
> I
>Richeza/Ryksa of Poland 1018-1052
> I
>Laslo I, King of Hungary, 1044-1095
> I
>Eirene/Piroska of Hungary
> I

This part here doesn't work: Theodora's descendants can't be traced more
than a couple of generations. See M. L. Bierbrier, "Modern descendants of
Byzantine families", in *Genealogists' Magazine*, vol. 20, no. 3 (September
1980), pp. 85-96, at p. 87 (col. 174).

>Theodora Komnena 1116-
> I
>NN Anemas
> I
>NN Angelos
> I
>Ioannes Komnenos Angelos
> I
>Eudoka Angelina
>1222-

From Eudokia down the line is OK, but her origin and connection (if any) to
the main line of the Angelos family, is unknown. See. for example, Lindsay
L. Brook, "The Byzantine ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of
Wales", in *The Genealogist* [APSG], vol. 2, no. 1 (Spring 1981), pp. 3-51,
at number 26 (p. 8). Note 23, on p. 39, points out that it's
chronologically impossible for Eudokia to be a daughter of Ioannes.

> I
>Theodora Dukaina Komnena
>1240-1303
> I
>Eudokia Palaiologina
> I
>Alexios II
>Emperor in Trapezunt
>1283-1330
> I
>Basileios Megas Komnenos
>Emperor in Trapezunt
> I
>Alexios III
>Emperor in Trapezunt
>1338-1390
> I
>Manuel III
>Emperor in Trapezunt
>1364-1417
> I
>Alexios IV
>Emperor in Trapezunt
>1382-1429
> I
>Ioannes IV
>Emperor in Trapezunt
>1403-1460
> I
>Theodora Megale Komnena
> I
>Haydar Safavi
>Sultan
> I
>Ismael I
>Shah of Persia
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>** Leo van de Pas ** Centraal Bureau http://www.cbg.nl
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Home Page : http://www.iinet.net.au/~leovdpas/genealogics.html
>
>

William Addams Reitwiesner


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