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From: William Addams Reitwiesner< >
Subject: Re: Thomas Harris
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:35:21 GMT


(Reedpcgen) wrote:

>>>Can someone tell me if Henry Algernon Percy, 5th Earl of<BR>
>>Northumberland, born 14 Jan 1477 and Catherine Spencer-Combe had a son, >Sir
>Thomas Percy who married Eleanor Harbottle?
>>Also, are the volumes called "Magna Charta Lineages" (or something like >that)
>at all reliable?
>
>Sir Egerton Brydges' version of Collins's Peerage of England (London, 1812)
>2:308, shows there was a son named Sir Thomas, and gives his wife as Eleanor,
>daughter of Guiscard/Wycherd Harbottle, Esquire, of Beamish, co. Durham, son of
>Sir Ralph Harbottle and his wife Margaret. She is said to have married (2)
>about 1541, Sir Richard Holland of Denton, co. Lancs., but to have had no issue
>by the second marriage, dying in 1567. By Percy she was mother of three sons,
>Thomas (b. 1528), who had a portrait dated 9 Dec. 1566, who became 7th Earl,
>Henry, who became 8th Earl and Guiscard Percy, who died in infancy. She had
>one daughter, Mary, who married Sir Francis Slingsby. Vincent claims she had
>two other daughters, Catharine, wife of Ralph Rither, and Joan, married to
>Arthur Harris of Prittlewell, co. Essex. CP 9:728-32 counts Thomas, son of Sir
>Thomas, as 11th Earl of Northumberland and his brother Henry as 12th Earl,
>through whom the line continued.
>
>If memory serves, Isaac Spooner was a descendant of the Slingsby-Percy union.
>
>But be very cautious of using any "Magna Charta Lineage" books. Those by Wurtz
>and his group are very inaccurate. The volume published by the society under
>Timothy Beard is much more trustworthy, though still not without its flaws.
>You should post your line of descent down to the immigrant. That would be the
>easiest way to judge the accuracy of what you are tracing.

Judging from the subject of the message, this is probably a query about the
ancestry of Thomas Harris, early emigrant to Virginia, and often presented
as a son of Joan and Arthur. There was some desultory discussion about
this connection in this newsgroup back in April/May 1996 (check DejaNews),
but as far as I remember the connection doesn't work.

William Addams Reitwiesner


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