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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Feminine Equivalent of Fitz
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:15:55 -0500
John Carmi Parsons wrote:
> What are significant are the cases in which a widow who remarried continued
> to use the surname of an earlier husband--e.g., Eleanor nee de Clare, the
> granddaughter of Edward I, who married first the heir to the de Burgh
> earldom of Ulster in Ireland, then Theobald de Verdon and finally a Damory.
> All three marriages produced issue, but through all three, and all during
> her widowhood, she continued to call herself Eleanor de Burgh and was so
> addressed on official matters by her royal relatives as long as she lived.
> In view of her illustrious Clare descent, and particularly since she was the
> Clare coheir whose purparty included Clare castle itself, this is remarkable;
> but hers is by no means the only such case on record.
A similar pattern is that of a widow who "reverts" to the name of a
previous, and more prestigious, husband. Thus, Thomasine de Merton
married Nicholas de Kirkham, and then married John de Chudlegh. While
married to Chudlegh, she was styled Thomasine de Chudlegh, but following
John's death, she reverted to Thomasine de Kirkham. This so confused
the earlier genealogists that she appears no less than three different
times in Vivians pedigree of the Chudleghs.
If I recall correctly, a similar case is found in Joan, mother of
William Mallory, whose will calls her Joan Basset even though she had
later married Mallory.
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