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From: "G . EDWARD ALLEN" <>
Subject: Re: Thimbleby Welby Bulkeley connections
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:18:21 -0800


Dennis J. Cunniff wrote:
>
> Robert Irby and Joan Thimbleby were parents of Anthony Irby, grandfather
> of Olive Irby, the wife of Rev. Edward Bulkeley:

I hate to burst this bubble, but I have never seen solid, primary
evidence for the parentage of Anthony Irby, who was probably born closer
to 1480. Maddison's Lincolnshire Pedigrees, G-O [Harl. Soc. 51]
does give this pedigree, as does an early Lincolnshire Visitation.
Donald Lines Jacobus did not hold by these pedigrees either, beginning
the Irby line, in his famous Bulkeley Genealogy, with Anthony. He is a
"new man" of the Tudors, and as such, was given an "old" pedigree by the
heralds. It is very likely that he comes from a family of prosperous
yeoman sheep farmers around Swineshead. I have also never seen real
proof for his wife being daughter of Bountaine.

If anyone can disabuse me, I would be most grateful.

Kay Allen AG
>
> (0) Robert Irby & Joan Thimbleby
> (1) Anthony Irby (~1490 - 1552) & Alice Bunting ( - 1557)
> (2) John Irby (<1520 - 1553) & Rose Overton ( - 1579)
> (3) Olive Irby (~1547 - 1614) & Rev. Edward Bulkeley (~1540 - ~1620)
> (4) Frances Bulkeley (~1568 - bur. 1610) & Richard Welby (ch. 1564 -
> )
> (4) Judith Bulkeley (~1570 - )
> (4) Martha Bulkeley (~1572 - 1639) & Abraham Mellowes ( - <1639)
> (4) Nathaniel Bulkeley (~1574 - 1602)
> (4) Deborah Bulkeley (~1575 - )
> (4) Dorcas Bulkeley (~1577 - ) & Anthony Ingoldsby
> (4) Elizabeth Bulkeley (~1579 - 1643) & Richard Whittingham
> (4) Elizabeth Bulkeley (~1579 - 1643) & Atherton Haugh
> (4) Sarah Bulkeley (~1580 - <1611) & Sir Oliver St. John (~1575 -
> 1625)
> (4) Paul Bulkeley (~1581 - bur. 1610)
> (4) Rev. Peter Bulkeley (1582 - 1658) & Jane Allen (ch. 1587 - 1626)
>
> (4) Rev. Peter Bulkeley (1582 - 1658) & Grace Chetwode (~1602 -
> 1669)
>
> Thomas Thimbleby was 6G-grandfather of Richard Welby, who married
> Frances Bulkeley, Rev. Edward Bulkeley's daughter:
>
> (1) Thomas Thimbleby ( - 1353) & Joan de Barkeworth (~1332 - )
> (2) Thomas Thimbleby & Dorothy
> (3) Thomas Thimbleby
> (4) Richard Thimbleby & Margaret Farnell
> (5) Richard Thimbleby ( - 1522) & Elizabeth Hilton (~1455 - 1496)
> (6) Sir John Thimbleby & Margaret Boys
> (7) Sir Richard Thimbleby ( - 1590) & Katherine Tyrwhit
> (8) Elizabeth Thimbleby & Thomas Welby ( - 1570)
> (9) Richard Welby (ch. 1564 - ) & Frances Bulkeley (~1568 - bur.
> 1610)
>
> Does anyone know if Joan Thimbleby was related to these latter
> Thimblebys, and if so, how?
>
> Dennis.

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