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From: RAY Montgomer <>
Subject: Re: Hawise of Chester's connection
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 01:11:06 EST


Dear Kay
why did amicia have a daughter named Bertrand if she is illigitimate?
I hate asking this but i guess my curiousity is killing me. (my father
was a cat doctor, and very curious about every thing- so we used to say
Curiousity killed the cat doctor)
I guess i get it from him.
Sincerely
RAY
On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 07:23:04 -0800 "G . EDWARD ALLEN"
<> writes:
>Michelle.Murphy% wrote:
>>
>> Amice, the bastard dtr. of Hugh Kevelioc, only married Sir Ralph
>> Mainwaring, according to my database.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have a clue for the wife of Llywelyn ab Iorwerth.
>>
>> Is there a different Sir Ralph Mainwaring though? Even accounting
>for very old
>> husbands and infant wives, he can't possibly have married someone
>born about 91
>> years after him.
>
>Could you have a mis-date for Mainwaring? Do you have his children by
>Amice?
>>
>> Also, do you think your database is complete, and that Ranulf de
>Meschines did
>> NOT have any sisters not mentioned in your database? If so that
>would mean that
>> one of the sisters you mentioned married Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, if
>what Douglas
>> said is true (!) - it's always possible that Amice married a
>different Sir Ralph
>> Mainwaring, and maybe Llywelyn second (or first).....?
>
>I think I have a fairly complete and accurate data base for the dtrs.
>of
>Hugh Kevelioc. But, being human, I can be fallible. I have three
>illegitimate dtrs. : Amice, Beatrice and Geva; and four legitimate
>dtrs.: Agnes, Mabel, Maud, and Hawise.
>
>I will check Bartrum ands see what he says.
>
>Kay Allen AG
>
>

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