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From: Dcrdcr4< >
Subject: Re: De St. Liz and de Quincy
Date: 23 Mar 1999 01:30:08 GMT


Yes, you are correct that Alan Fitz Roland's grandfather, Uchtred Fitz Fergus,
lord of Galloway, was related in some fashion to King Henry II of England. It
is commonly thought that Uchtred's mother, Elizabeth, was an illegitimate
daughter of King Henry I of England. After studying the matter, I believe
this is probably correct. However, such a connection betwen Alan Fitz Roland
to King Henry I would give him NO kinship to his wife, Margaret of Huntingdon.
If Alan's ancestress, Elizabeth, was Henry I's illegitmate daughter, Alan
would necessarily lose any connection to King Henry I's wife, Maud of Scotland,
which would otherwise provide him a connection to Margaret of Huntingdon.
Consequently, the only reasonable connection between Alan Fitz Roland and his
wife Margaret would presumably come through the common Warrenne ancestry.

In any case, due to Margaret of Huntingdon's high born status, her ancestry is
well documented and her potential relatives almost all identified. As such,
there isn't a whole lot of possibilities for her to be related to her husband,
Alan, other than the Warenne scenario. The Warenne kinship would cause Alan
and Margaret to be related within the prohibited degrees, which in turn
explains the need they had to obtain a dispensation following their marriage.

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