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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: de Clare Family Origins
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:09:16 -1000
Liegarde [Hildebrante] de France, daughter of Robert I de France, is
reportedly the wife of Heribert II, [c. 880/890 -- 943] Comte de
Vermandois. This couple were the 4th Great-Grandparents of Guillaume
Luitgarde de Vermandois, daughter of this couple, was the _second_
wife of William I 'Longsword', 2nd Duke of Normandy and NOT an
ancestor of William The Bastard or even of Guillaume 'le Batard' ---
John Carmi Parsons, _Nota Bene_.
Sprota de Bretagne is the _first_ wife of William I 'Longsword' and
the 2nd Great-Grandmother of William The Conqueror.
So, Olin Tillotson [1926- ] seems to have screwed the pooch, as Gus
Grissom in his 'Liberty Bell 7' Mercury spacecraft would have said.
Yes, I see Tillotson's book was published in 1995, but that doesn't
mean it can be trusted, n'est-ce pas?
Vanity Publisher or Self-Published?
'Unreasonable, Nit-Picking' Standards in Genealogy, History, Education
& Life --- for further salient details.
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas
D. Spencer Hines --- "Probitas Laudatur et Alget" [Honesty is praised
and starves.], Decimus Junius Juvenalis (Juvenal) [c. 50 A.D.-- c.130
A.D.], _Satires, I, line 74_
<> wrote in message
> In article <>,
> "Todd A. Farmerie" <> wrote:
> > Sprota (not of Senlis - all we know is that she was Breton) was
> > of Richard I. IIRC, Godfrey was son of Richard by Gunnor (not of
> > - all we know is that she was of danish descent) but born (long)
> > their marriage.
> > taf
> I have Richard's mother as Leutgarde (from Tillotson, Olin, 1926-
> Tillotson of East Montpelier, Vermont : being an account of the
> ancestors and descendants of Olin Locke Tillotson (1854-1956) and
> Dellah Davis (1861-1932) and their allied families / compiled and
> edited by Olin Tillotson. South Surrey, B.C. : O. Tillotson, c1995.
> 373 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
> LC CALL NUMBER: CS71.T5795 1995)
> Where did he go wrong?
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