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From: "Chris Bennett" <>
Subject: Re: Carlos II _Ahnenreihe_
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:58:35 -0700


I suspect I'm going to regret joining this thread but:

Dana Jones has asked a perfectly reasonable question which should be capable
of a simple, straightforward and immediate answer. Instead s/he got the
usual Hinesian obfuscation (which leads one to suspect that the answer to
the question is in fact: "a tertiary source, such as one of the numerous
published genealogies of the Spanish Hapsburgs"). Nevertheless s/he gave
the group his/her name when asked to do so. Nor do I see why Dana should be
required to invite some random member of the group to engage in a private
email dialogue.

Chris

PS: I remind DSH that my kill-file consists of his addresses. There is no
point in his responding to this mail.

Leo van de Pas <> wrote in message
news:000001bedc7e$57dc54c0$...
> Let's assume that your 'spam prevention' story is believable, at least you
> can
> tell us your name. The civilised thing is to let people know who is
talking,
> Why should anyone want to communicate with "MR X"? I think it is rather
> insulting and, if you are serious about your request, which I doubt, you
> should have sent Mr. Spencer Hines an e-mail privately. Now you are only
> grandstanding----
> Do tell us your priorities, do you really want to know or do you think you
> are having some 'fun'?
> Best wishes
> Leo van de Pas
> ==== Time Wounds All Heels=======
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DanaJo9613 <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 12:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Carlos II _Ahnenreihe_
>
>
> > In article <7o0klh$n0m$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "D. Spencer Hines"
> > <> writes:
> >
> > >Subject: Re: Carlos II _Ahnenreihe_
> > >From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
> > >Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:04:06 -1000
> > >
> > >Vide infra pro risibus.
> > >
> > >This Carlos II, Rey de Espana, *Seize-Quartiers* _Ahnenreihe_ is a
> > >Work In Progess [WIP] and is provided to the subscribers here _gratis_
> > >for personal scholarly use, but not for commercial use.
> > >
> > >It is _far_ from finished as I've made abundantly clear. I'll discuss
> > >sources and methods when it's more polished. I certainly don't make
> > >changes just based on an e-mail or newsgroup post, absent citations
> > >that I can check.
> > >
> > >For now, consider it a _tabula rasa_. Write on it as you will. But
> > >do _write_, don't just kvetch and whine.
> >
> > If it was a _tabula rasa_ then it would be blank. It's not: you've
filled
> some
> > of it in. My question is, where did you get the information that you
> filled
> > in?
> >
> > For example, you state:
> >
> > >1. CARLOS II Rey de Espana was born on 6 Nov 1661 in Madrid, Espana.
> >
> > Did you get this birth date and birth location from a primary source,
such
> as a
> > letter from his father or a report from an ambassador, announcing his
> birth? A
> > letter or report which you have personally examined in one of the
> archives?
> >
> > Or did you get them from a secondary source, such as a published
calendar
> of
> > original documents (an English example would be the _Calendar of State
> > Papers_)?
> >
> > Or did you get them from a tertiary source, such as one of the numerous
> > published genealogies of the Spanish Hapsburgs?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >However, my _Ahnenreihen_ here have a rather good track record ---
> > >because many folks trust me to be careful and accurate. Check
> > >Deja.com for details. This is not my first multi-lingual _Ahnenreihe_
> > >by far.
> >
> > Yes, I've seen several of your previous _Ahnenreihen_, such as Eleanor
of
> > Aquitaine. Like this one, they had no source citations either.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >As a Lurker, I suggest you post a few things first --- and establish a
> > >track record of your own, if you expect to be taken seriously. You
> > >could start with your Real Name. DanaJo9613 doesn't cut it.
> >
> > It's Dana Jones, though the issue here is not what I post, it's what
_you_
> > post. Many of the posters here post their sources, you don't.
> >
> > If you're serious about it being a Work In Progress, including your
> sources
> > would be part of the "progress".
> > Dana Jones
> >
> > I get so much spam at this account that I've blocked mail from everyone
> except
> > my close friends. If you would like to communicate privately with me,
> mention
> > it in the group and I'll add your address to my whitelist.
> >
>

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