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From: Jim Stevens< >
Subject: Re: Odard de Dutton
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:22:09 -0400
>Who was Odard de Dutton, ancestor, I believe, of the Despencers and of the
>Warburton family of Arley. Older copies of Burke's Landed Gentry give a
>descent (under Warburton of Arley) from one of the earlier Dukes of Normandy,
>making the family
>patrilineal descendants of Rollo. I have also read that he was a member of the
>d'Avranches family or that he sprang from a Norman baronial house. Does anyone
>know the latest and/or most likely theory?
>From Odard's notes on my website:
Extracted from "Genealogy of the Dutton family of Pennsylvania" compiled by
Gilbert Cope, printed in 1871 (pp. 12-13):
Odard or Udard, sometimes also written Hodard and Hudard, came into
England with WILLIAM THE CONQUERER, and seated himself at Dutton, a good
part of wherof Hugh Lupus, Earl of Chester [Hugh of Avranches, Earl of
Chester (RIN 3101)], gave unto him as you have heard out of Doomsday-book.
. According to "Burke's Landed Gentry", p.1508: "These six
. brothers [including Odard] accompanied their uncle, Hugh
. Lupus into England, in the train of WILLIAM THE CONQUERER,
. their great-uncle; and on the establishment of the Norman
. power, had various estates and honors conferred upon them."
The ancient Roll of the Barons of Halton saith that with Hugh, Earl of
Chester, came one Nigeil, a nobleman; and with Nigeil came five bretheren
to wit: Hudard, Edard, Wolmere, Horswyne, and Wolfaith . . . and unto
Hudard the same Nigeil gave Weston and Great Aston . . . and from this
Hudard came all the Duttons. [Cope goes on to expess doubt as to whether
the five brothers listed above were actually Nigeil's brothers.]
Cope mentions that in 1665 an heirloom called "Hudard's sword" was then
in the custody of Lady Elinour Viscountess Kilmorey, sole dau. and heir of
Thomas Dutton of Dutton.
Regarding Odard's parentage, Cope says that "Burke's Landed Gentry",
p.1508, cited above, calls him the son of WILLIAM, COUNT OF EU (RIN 3830)
and his second wife Jeanne, niece of Hugh of Avranches, Earl of Chester.
This would give him a descent from RICHARD I, DUKE OF NORMANDY (RIN 1308).
Cope states that another source, "Lyson's Magna Britannia", calls Odard the
son of Yvron, Viscount of Constantine.
I do not beleive that current scholarly opinion gives much weight to the
descent from Duke Richard.
Odard is # 5274 in the database at my website.
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