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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Edgifu of Wessex
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:12:53 -0400


Cristopher Nash wrote:
>
> Thanks Todd. While this opens up nicely the tangle of possibilities linked
> to Stefan Hñllriegl's Hull stuff, I gather it leaves intact the marriage of
> Eadgifu, daughter if Edward I, to Charles le Simple and mother of Louis
> d'Outremer, the details of which appear to be well documented.

Yes. This marriage is well documented, and I see no reason to doubt
it. As you say, she appears sufficiently in French records, in forms
recognizable as Eadgiva, to complement the English historical accounts.
It is only the second Eadgiva, "wife of Louis of Provence" who finds no
continental support.

> (E.g. in P.
> Lauer's account in _Le Regne de Louis IV d'Outre-mer_, 1900. It's old, no
> less sentimental than you'd expect for the period, and uneven, but lengthy
> and voluminously documented on this point, pp 9-10 & 304, citing her in
> French records as Ogive, Ottogeba, Eadgiva, Headtgiva, Edgiva, Ethgiva,
> Otgiva, Odgeva, Ogiva, Ediva and in a letter from Aethelverd to Mathilde as
> Eadgyfu.)

Aethelverd and Matilde? Is this the correspondence between Ealdorman
AEthelweard and his cousin, abbess Matilda, daughter of Otto I?

>
> Have you actually seen contested the parentage of Guillaume Tête d'Etoupe
> as Ebles Manzer and Emilliane/Emillane?

I hope I didn't give this impression. I was only questioning the
identification of Emilane with Eadgiva. As far as I know, the descent
of the Counts of Poitou is universally accepted.

ta

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