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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Ipstones/Swynnerton/Savage
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:43:33 -0400


Gee Gee Hughes wrote:
>
> Can someone help with me with the marriages of Maud de Swynnerton, as I
> find conflicting information.
>
> According to both T.A.G. and AR-7, Maude de Swynnerton had three marriages.
>
> T.A.G. 26:21 says Maud Swynnerton b. ca. 1370, m. 1st. Humphrey de Peshall,
> then was abducted by John de Ipstones and married his son, William de
> Ipstones, as her 2nd. husband, and married 3rd. Sir John Savage.
>
> AR-7 32:33 and 233:37 only says that Maud Swynnerton married Sir John
> Savage, as her 3rd. husband. Sir John Savage was the s/o Sir John Savage
> and Katherine Stanley.
>
> William Salt's, "History of Staffordshire" 1:300 (courtsey of Robert
> O'Connor), citing Ormerod's "History of Chester" 1:526, says that the Sir
> John Savage (d. 1 Aug 1450) who married Maud Swynnerton (whose wife she was
> in 10 Hen. IV), was the son of Sir John Savage and Margaret Daniers
> (Daniels). "If she (Maud) married Sir William Ipstones at all, he must
> have been her 1st, husband."

Maud's marriage to Peshall, her kidnapping and marriage to Ipstones, and
her subsequent marriage to John Savage are all well documented (I seem
to recall a claimed fourth after Savage, but don't remember the
details). I think the Salt quotation of Ormerod was intended only to
show that she did not marry Ipstones subsequent to Savage.

As to John Savage's paternity, a quick look at the archives shows a 1996
post from Ronnie Bodine showing John m. Margaret Daniers d. 1388, making
him an unlikely father for John d. 1450, but I can't confirm these
dates. As to the John who married Katharine Stanley, he was grandson of
Johm m. Maud Swinnerton, not father.

ta

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