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Subject: Re: The Maguire, Prince of Fermanagh
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:52:23 GMT


In article <>,
Patrick Cracroft-Brennan <> wrote:

> There was a link to the page with the Maquire pedigree......

Yes Patrick, there is.

http://www.cris.com/~Maguire/Mdescent.html

The immediate ancestry of "His Excellency" Maguire of Fermanagh is at
the bottom left of the page.

To keep this on topic, the genealogy down to around 1600-1650 is
derived from genealogies in MacFirbis's Great Book of Genealogies
(circa 1650), O Clery's Book of genealogies (circa 1630's), the Book of
Lecan and the Book of Ballymote (both circa 1400), the Book of Leinster
(circa 1170) and two books of unknown name now catalogued by the
Bodleian Library as Rawlinson B502 (circa 1120) and Laud 610 (circa
1400, but with a structure and language indicating that it was copied
from a book circa 1050 which itself was copied from books dating back
to to circa 750 when oral genealogies were first written down).

The Adam to early first millennium AD section is of course bogus, being
the creation of 8th century monks keen to both ehumerise the old pagan
gods and to give a common "Milesian" origin to all of the important
families of the time.

In the case of the Maguire lineage, this "Milesian" falsification is
likely to cover the section up until circa 1200 when they rose to power.

SEAN MAC LOCHLAINN


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