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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <>
Subject: Re: Constance of Toulouse--Still a conflict
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 17:41:45 -0400
l. akershoek wrote:
> On Sept. 7, Todd A. Farmerie <> wrote a.o.:
> >> ...... (snip).....
> >> Arsinde was the first wife of William, Count of Provence, while Adelaide
> was his second wife, and was d'Anjou.
> I have three/two questions:
> 1. After reading the messages on Constance of Toulouse, am I now right in
> thinking that Constance is a dau of William I of Arles (950-994) and of
No. She was daughter of William I of Arles (more often now called of
Provence) and of Adele of Anjou. FWIW, William I should probably
correctly be called William II, since it has been demonstrated that an
earlier William held Provence, but this would confuse the established
numbering, so it is best left with the traditional number.
> 2. Where does the name Toulouse fit in? I don't see that from William I of
> Arles. May be from:
It doesn't. It was applied to her based on the mistaken belief that she
was daughter of William III of Toulouse, but this is incorrect. She is
correctly called Constance of Provence or Constance of Arles.
> 3. (who were here) the parents/ancestors (and some dates, please) of
It is not known for certain, but IIRC, speculation has pointed to the
Carcassone family, with female lines connecting to Rouergue, and only
much earlier, to Toulouse (Count Raymond I having married a woman named
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