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From: raymond l montgomery <>
Subject: Re: What Paul C. Reed didn't READ.
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 00:43:27 -0700


Dear who ever you are!
You are again way off topic.
if you have an interest in this take it some where else.
There is a time to preach and a time not to preach and this is not the
forum for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your propensity and ignorance is a very clear sign of some major
problems.
Take these problems else where!
Very sincerely
RAY

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:38:51 -0800 "Chris & Tom Tinney, Sr."
<> writes:
>Spencer,
>
>I am simply more cautious in stating what is, or is not
>fictional. The question is: What is impossible or not
>impossible, for "whatever remains, however
>improbable", must be the truth. Your partial Quote.
>
>The constant wars suggested in the context of Irish
>pedigrees and life experiences follows a pattern similar
>to that shown within some historical chronology
>in the The Book of Mormon [ended ca A.D. 421].
>Therefore, taking the liberty to answer your question:
>
>PEDIGREE:
>The Book of Ether says: Ether, and he was
>a descendant of Coriantor, son of Moron,
>son of Ethem, son of Ahah, son of Seth,
>son of Shiblon, son of Com, son of Coriantum,
>son of Amnigaddah, son of Aaron, [a descendant
>of] Heth, the son of Hearthom, son of Lib,
>son of Kish, son of Corom, son of Levi,
>son of Kim, son of Morianton, [descendant of]
>Riplakish, son of Shez, son of Heth, son of Com,
>son of Coriantum, son of Emer, son of Omer,
>son of Shule, son of Kib, son of Orihah,
>son of Jared.
>
>Does the use of "Aaron", "Ahah, "Seth", "Levi",
>etc. mean this is a "faked" pedigree taken from
>Biblical resources?
>Not necessarily.
>
>There is Com, son of Coriantum, son of
>Amnigaddah AND Com, son of Coriantum,
>son of Emer.
>Does the duplication within the pedigree mean
>the conclusion should be drawn that the pedigree
>is "faked" and a rerun of later generations?
>Not necessarily.
>
>Continuing:
>"Which Jared came forth with his brother
>and their families, with some others and their
>families, from the great tower, at the time the
>Lord confounded the language of the people,
>and swore in his wrath that they should be
>scattered upon all the face of the earth . . ."
>Does the reference to Biblical connections
>mean the connection is "faked"?
>Not necessarily.
>
>CHRONOLOGY & AGE:
>Briefly, this inspired pedigree listed heretofore
>has gaps in chronology, for son is used and
>descendant is used.
>
>Later in time [AGE]:
>Mormon, who obtains the plates of Nephi, he,
>"notwithstanding I being young, was large in stature;
>therefore the people of Nephi appointed me that
>I should be their leader, or the leader of their armies.
>Therefore it came to pass that in my sixteenth year
>I did go forth at the head of an army of the Nephites,
>against the Lamanites; . . ."
>
>ORIGINATION:
>The Lamanites are the principal ancestors of the American
>Indians. Excluding some minor migrations [Mulek],
>all the ancestry of the Lamanites and Nephites derive from
>the loins of Lehi through his sons [Laman, Lemuel, Sam,
>Nephi, Jacob, Joseph]; plus one "Zoram".
>Lehi had no daughters.
>AND:
>Paul C. Reed states about Irish Pedigrees:
>"The fictional aspect of these early pedigrees is apparent
>in that every male Irish surname can be traced back to
>the three sons of Milesius in the direct male line.
>What are the chances of that?"
>
>AGAIN, The question is:
>What is impossible or not impossible, for "whatever remains,
>however improbable, must be the truth."
>
>Respectfully yours,
>
>Tom Tinney, Sr.
>http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~vctinney/homepage.htm#Here
>Listed in: Who's Who In The West, 1998/1999
> Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry,
> [both editions]
>--------------------------------------
>"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
>
>> You still have not answered Paul's question.
>>
>> Could you do that please?
>> --
>>
>> D. Spencer Hines
>>
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>
>>
>> | This thread is at the end.
>

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