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From: Christian Feuillet <>
Subject: Re: Vis de Loup
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 13:46:09 -0500

Yes, in modern French vis is screw (from vitis, tendril of grape vine) or
anything long and looking thwisted, but in old French, vis is face (from
visus, what you see). So probably Face of Wolf.


At 20:31 15/02/1998 +0000, you wrote:
> [Richard Dolph] wrote:
>There is a La Loupe, a village about 20 miles West of Chatres, France.
>From "My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror" gives the following who _may_
>have accompanied William (these are two persons with alternative
>Honfroi Vis de Loup; Raoul Vis-de-Loup; Hunfridus Vis de Lew (a tennant in
>chief in the Domesday bok 1086); Hunfridus Uside Leun/Uisdelupe, Radulfus
>Viso lupi (a sub=tennant in the Domesday book)
>Perhaps Vis is short for visage, i.e. face as in vis-a-vis.
>Adrian (Surrey, UK)

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