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Subject: Re: SKIPWITH/ CARTER/ DYMOKE Ancestors
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:40:47 EST
In a message dated 01/17/2000 12:42:37 PM EST,
<< Yes it gives an English origin, but the exact connection has not been
proved. At the moment, MichaelAnne Guido has a letter describing a crest
which was in the possession of a Thomas Carter relative or descendent (you'd
have to get exact details from her) and is that of the Carters of Kempston,
Paul T. Carter has written an update called NEW ORIGINS: THE THOMAS AND JOHN
CARTER FAMILIES OF COROTOMAN. Although I have the booklet, I confess to not
having had time to read it yet. His email (published on the cover of the
booklet) is: . He also has a website:
Mardi is correct is her statement. This lineage is not proven. The primary
source documents support this lineage but the exact connection between Thomas
who leaves Bedfordshire records in 1652 and Captain Thomas Carter who shows up
in Nasemond County, VA records in 1652 and Lancaster County, VA records in
1653 has NOT been firmly documented. There are many circumstantial documents
including the Carter Family Prayer Book and various deeds which are
circumstantial to this identification.
As far as the New Origins article it was published to show a new theory of
the origin of Captain Thomas Carter. It is well documented, but many of the
documents can be interpreted in several ways. There has never been any
definite link proven between the family of Robert "King" Carter of COROTOMAN
and Captain Thomas Carter. The family bore different arms (whether they are
real or not - I have no idea) and never had any connection except in business
dealings that has ever been shown to exist. Much of this article hinges on a
connection between these two lines. The article does provide the research of
John Bennett Bodie on this line which is well worth the price of the article.
Bodie theorized that Captain Thomas Carter was the same man as the Thomas
Carter born 1612 in Great Barford, Bedfordshire. This theory was proven
false because this Thomas Carter lived and died in England. He cites a death
date of 1659 for Thomas Carter, son of William Carter, born 1631. There IS
NO will or other burial or death records for this man showing a date of 1659.
It is possible that Bodie took the date of property transference from Thomas
to his brother William as somehow indicating Thomas Carter's death. The
issue of property transference in this family is also possibly linked to the
second civil war. I do not have access to Bodie's notes or know how he
arrived at this determination. At present this date is unsubstantiated.
As I stated earlier I will gladly share what I have on this lineage.