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From: Adrian Channing <>
Subject: Re: Marisco was Freemen (Langlonde)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:05:10 -0400

The de Marisco of Huntspill family appeared in a pedigree which purported
to show the connection between the "de Montmorency family" and the family
of Morres, (changed to de Montmorency) of co Wexford, Ireland - but
unfortunately (for me) this pedigree is thoroughly pulled to bits by J H
Round (see CP Vol IX Appendix I, ) The following is from Chart D on page
67 of that appendix:

...
Geoffroi de Montmorency de Marisco, Lord of Thorney and Huntspill; d 1118 m
Richilde, dau of de Gautier of Douai and whom came to England with Matilda
of Flanders. They left

Robert de Marisco, living 1139; died in Lucca returning from Palestine; m
Lucia d of Alexander d'Alneto. Epitaph in Bath Abbey. They left

Jordan de Marisco, of Huntspill, living 1179; bur in Bath Abbey; m?

1) William de Marisco, Lord of Huntspill; Peer of Realm 1229; bur in Bath;
no issue
2)Geoffrey de Marisco, died 1245 in France; m1 Eva de Bermingham, m2 A
sister of Hugh de Lacy. Geoffrey left issue.

but I don't know if this is total or only part rubbish, are there any de
Marisco's recorded at Bath Abbey?

Adrian (NB my place of birth -Brent Knoll, Somerset)


© Adrian (Surrey, UK)



Ivor West wrote,
>
> In Rentalia & Custumania of Michaelis de Ambresbury, 1235 - 1252, et
Rogeri
> de Ford, 1252 - 1261, there is an unusual case in Brent, Somerset, of a
> villein becoming free by marrying the niece or granddaughter (neptis) of
his
> lord. Below are two entries in full relating to the free tenants of
Brent.
> The first to show the size of Jordan and Stephen's tenement but referred
to
> as manors in the second:
>
> South Brent: Stephanus de Langhelond habet dimidiam virgatam.
>
> Brent: fol 135b: Stephanus de Langelond tenuit tenementum quod fuit
Jordani
> patris sui et fecit servicia sicut villani ejusdem maneneri (sic)
quousque
> Bricius de Marisco dedit et Edith' neptam suam in uxorem que adhuc
superstes
> est et tunc per ipsum Bricium quoquo modo dictus Stephanus factus fuit
liber
> non habito assensu dominorum.
>
> What is particularly interesting about this is that this Stephen
Langlonde
> flourished in Brent which was also the main area of the landholdings of
the
> Langlonde Sheriffs of Somerset, Sir Nicholas 1306, Sir Hugh 1330 and Sir
> John 1334. Sir Nicholas was born about 1265, so it would place the
villein
> Stephen at about the same time as Nicholas's father. My post of a year or
so
> ago about the ancestry of Sir Nicholas did not produce a positive result.
> The three sheriffs seem to have "sprung from the ground". If a
connection
> to Stephen could be proved we would have a rare example of a pedigree
that
> could be traced to a villein of the early 13th century and possibly an
> Anglo-Saxon. Both name elements of Langlonde could be either from the
> French, long moor, or OE, long land (assuming that it does not derive
from
> OE gelang land, belonging to the land - which would be nice :) )
>
> It may be more helpful to approach by way of the Marshes. Brice de
Marisco
> (OE merisc, marshy) may be connected to the eponymous Mariscos who gave
> their name to the nearby village of Huntspill Mareis. Has anyone done
any
> work this family or possibly the Mariscos of Lundy that might shed some
> light on Langlonde?
>

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