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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: "Inbred" ---- What's An Example Of an "Inbred" Person?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 18:27:21 +0100

Good. Thank you kindly.

At one point, there were stories that Henri was going to disinherit him
and pass him over in favour of his son, Jean [born 1965].

An elder brother to Jean, Francois [born 1961], is reportedly mentally
retarded and apparently *was* passed over. Others have said that his
being retarded has nothing to do with "inbreeding" ---- perhaps there is
more to say on that.

Gentle Readers will recall that Henri, [1908-1999] the recently deceased
Comte de Paris, had a nominal Wright COI of 32.6%.

Henri and Isabelle, his wife, are 3rd cousins from two different sets of
common ancestors [Louis-Philippe I [1773-1850], Roi des Francais is one
of them] and 3rd cousins, once removed from another set of common
ancestors.

Gentle Readers will recall that Henri's own parents are 1st cousins, 2nd
cousins, 3rd cousins, once removed and 3rd cousins, once removed again.

All of the children of Henri and Isabelle have a nominal Wright
Coefficient of Inbreeding [COI] of 6.6%. So, we can see how the COI
drops sharply when 1st cousins are not marrying each other and having
babies. Society has recognised that problem and 1st cousins are
prohibited from marrying, or at least strongly discouraged from doing
so, in many jurisdictions. Perhaps others will speak to the details on
that.

Henri Philippe Pierre Marie d'Orleans's [1933- ] nominal Wright COI of
6.6% clusters him right in there with King Richard III of England
[1452-1485] and Prince Charles, Princess Anne and Prince Edward. Not
highly inbred at all.

So, we now have a quantitative measure of "inbredness" ---- thanks to
Mr. Wright and Mr. Fettes. We don't just blindly and stupidly say that
"all the Royals and Nobles in Europe are highly inbred" ---- we can
quantify it.

Some are highly inbred and some are not. The British Royal Family today
is not "highly inbred" ---- neither is the Royal House of France
[Orleans]. English words do have discrete meanings. They are not
infinitely fungible.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

Fortem Posce Animum.

Ex Scientia Tridens.
--

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Walk with the Gods. And he does walk with the Gods who lets them see
his soul invariably satisfied with his lot and carrying out the will of
that "genius", a particle of himself, which Zeus has given to every man
as his captain and guide." Marcus Aurelius Antoninus [121 A.D. -- 180
A.D.] -- Meditations

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"Rudolf Schwarzkopf-Zskai" <> wrote in message
news:8h2fp8$nr8$2@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
|
| D. Spencer Hines said:
|
| : Perhaps some kind soul will tell us if Henri Philippe Pierre Marie
| : d'Orleans [1933- ] has succeeded his Father as Comte de Paris and
Head
| : of the Royal House of France [Orleanist].
| :
| : If he has ---- I'll bring us up-to-date on the inbreeding.
|
| Yes, he has.
| Well, he is now the head of the Orlans house; I can't offhand recall
if
| he's taken up the Paris title as well.
|
| Rudolf
| Nottingham UK
|
| www.dollynet.freeserve.co.uk

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