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From: Roz Griston <>
Subject: RE: Peter De Grey/Grey b.@1481
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:57:47 -0700
at this time..research break throughs happen all the time. quit being
so negative. sheesh, i get a picture of you sitting around a campfire
several thousand years ago..telling the other cavemen rolling the round
log will never amount to anything.
get over it
From:D. Spencer Hines [SMTP:]
Sent:Friday, July 07, 2000 5:25 AM
Subject:Re: Peter De Grey/Grey
This is a blivet.
Henry de Grey and the Magna Carta have no proven direct connection.
Get over it.
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"It may be said that, thanks to the 'clercs', humanity did evil for two
thousand years, but honoured good. This contradiction was an honour to
the human species, and formed the rift whereby civilisation slipped
the world." "La Trahison des clercs" [The Treason of the
(1927) Julien Benda (1867-1956)
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"William Addams Reitwiesner" <> wrote in message
| (Roz Griston) wrote:
| >meanwhile this page lists the 25 surety barons and then goes on to
| >several more, including henry grey and john grey.
| >the owners of the page (National Society Magna Charta Dames and
| >do state that the information was supplied by Charles H. Browning,
| >therefore suspect to inspection and requiring further research to
| >the additional barons were involved with the Magna Charta and
| Anything from or through Charles Browning needs something more than
| "inspection and ... further research". Most of Browning's work is
| worthless, as he would accept what others said without verifying it.
| >so, yes william i was in error that henry de grey signed the magna
| >charta, but there is a very strong possibility he was in attendance
| >during the signing.
| He couldn't have been "in attendance" during the signing of the Magna
| Charta, as the Magna Charta was not signed.
| William Addams Reitwiesner
| "Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc."
|RE: Peter De Grey/Grey b.@1481 by Roz Griston <>|