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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Haskell involvement in battle of Hastings
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:42:48 +0100

The story is also quite fanciful and not credible in the least.

It sounds like just the sort of thing that a fraudulent genealogist
might gin up.

D. Spencer Hines

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"Todd A. Farmerie" <> wrote in message
| wrote:
| >
| > I'm curious if their are any sources that list
| > the nobles that took part in the battle of
| > Hastings, especially on the side of William the
| > Conqueror.
| > According to Americana Illustrated, Volume 21 No.
| > 3, a publication of the American Historical
| > Society, Third Quarter, 1927. the Haskell coat of
| > arms' crest was created following the Battle.
| > Here's how the article states it:
| > "The legend is this: at the battle of Hastings,
| > William the Conqueror, being faint from the lack
| > of food, saw in the distance, near the lines of
| > Harold, an apple tree in fruit. Expressing the
| > belief that some of the apples would revive him
| > until the fortunes of the day should be decided,
| > one of his attendant knights, Roger de Haskell by
| > name, dashed forward amid a shower of the enemy's
| > arrows and brought to his sovereign a scarf
| > filled with the fruit, whereupon the Conqueror
| > bade him bear as his crest a fruit-bearing apple
| > tree pierced by a flying arrow. The arrow seems
| > to have disappeared, but the apple-tree remains
| > as a reminder to posterity of the courage of an
| > early progenitor. "
| >
| > If anbody can point me where to look for more
| > information, I'd truly appreciate it.
| It certainly looks like a good story, but unfortunately, there are two
| problems with it. First, no Haskell can be shown to have been at the
| battle of Hastings, and second, familial coats of arms did not exist
| the time, and thus could not have been awarded for action in the
| even had a Haskell been there.
| ta

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