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From: Roz Griston <>
Subject: RE: Royal Descent of Americans
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:18:03 -0700


Hmmmmmm. I see you still can't find that shift key.
i'm not likely to find it anytime soon either. go to the archives to
find out why.

1. I never withhold genealogical information, even from someone who
has
treated me very badly. To do so is puerile and petty. Many others
read
the post, so I may be helping them too.


hmm..we'll talk about this statement towards the end of the message.

5. You certainly have a sour attitude. Many people here have tried to
help you, myself included. But you seem far too blunt and obtuse to
see
that. I seem to be the only one who is still talking to you in the
newsgroup. I get the impression from your angry whining that people
are
not helping you in e-mail. Is that the case?

way off based hines, i'm still communicating off list with people. some
are offering constructive criticism, others are offering support for my
theory. but, why would they want to post to the list when every word is
put under a microscope and attacked..even if they have nothing to do
with you.


6. You said you were going to post a series of messages. What
happened
to that commitment?

well..i'm attempting to organise myself a bit more. i fell victim to
the taunting..of show me..show me..and as you said posted a very
disorganised off the top of my head response. so i have decided to take
my time, and make a more rational and logical posting. wait for it is
coming..but in my own time..not under your bullying pressure..that is
one of your tactics your ilk uses so they can make a point and say
see..see they made a mistake, the work was substandard..poorly won
kudo's.

7. I told you to do your homework and post one question at a time.
You
ignored my advice and sent us a long, disorganized screed, poorly
written, unedited and absolutely incomprehensible in many parts. You
threw the kitchen sink at us. People are ignoring you because you've
proven to be a colossal pain in the derriere. Your mind seems to
function like a chicken coop that hasn't been cleaned out in four or
five years.

well i did drop a massive amount of stuff on you. btw, when was the
last time you cleaned your mind out.

8. I asked us to tell us who your Gateway Ancestor is, whose lines you
are trying to trace back to the Greys. You ignored that too. If you
don't know, you should say so. Work the genealogy from your end. We
generally get in the game here about 1600 ---- but there are
exceptions.
You don't seem to have gotten anywhere near 1600.

very correct..i have not direct lined it to the 1600's. i'm chasing all
occurances of GRISTON. i do have one line back to 1752..only 150 years
to go on that one. not to shabby since dec/99..how long did it take
your paid researchers to get you back to the 1600's.


I've about come to the conclusion that I'm just wasting my time on you.
I appear to be quite slow --- or maybe it's just Christian kindness and
patience ---- because others saw through you early-on and dropped you
like a hot potato.

oh don't give me the christian kindness routine. i'm quite sure christ
lay in wait for people to make mistakes..christ was a leader..show your
christian kindness by leading the way to a more peaceful list.

We're smart, knowledgeable, competent, busy people here. We all have
families to support, or books to read and write, or careers to manage,
or loved ones to spend time with ---- or all the above.

gee me too.

We don't have either the time, the disposition or the inclination to
play games with a woman who shows less discipline, intelligence and
focus than a two-year-old child ---- and who makes angry,
unsubstantiated scurrilous charges against us.

don't turn it into a blanket statement. some is not all.
christains..real christains don't lie or twist the truth...or comment
on people for not using shift keys.

see statement #1..yes scroll to the top of the page.

So, make up your mind. Get focused, start to fly right ---- or take
your whining, your complaining and your unfocused emotional charges,
sans any legitimacy, to some other venue.

k..i'll follow you..after all we are both in the lists trash can..you
lead..

People have given you very good genealogical advice, gratis ---- and
you
spurn it. It's no wonder that they have gone silent.

sorry haven't spurned it..i've questioned it..but critical creative
thought seems to be an alien thought process unless one is using the
correct supported for this week only genealogical book..or
gedcom..pretentious does not become you.

Exitus Acta Probat [President George Washington's personal motto].

well as i don't fluently read latin..in fact i struggle with a
dictionary..you could try to translate and then we could experience
another wearing thread as to the exact possible translation.

or you know the list could actually..really assist with genealogical
research. so in my very best pig latin..

owgray upay anday etgay onhayestay..tionsacay eakspay ouderlay anthay
ordway.

translation..grow up and get honest. actions speak louder than words.

roz

Fortem Posce Animum.
--

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Odi profanum vulgus et arceo."

Quintus Aurelius Stultus [33 B.C. - 42 A.D.]

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"Roz Griston" <> wrote in message
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| what are you whining about hines. jsg is just playing the game some
of
| you play so well here..insult, bullying, jump down one another's
| throats..and then withhold information..cause i don't like what you
| said. how immature.
|
| perhaps its [sic] time a few of the entrenched ones grew up, put
aside
the
| need to run from under the porch and chew the leg off the messenger.
|
| in the short time i've been with the list, i have seen postings
saying
| it can't be..no way..and then one lone posting will pop up to stifle
| the ignorant clamour. one that disproves all the ignorant gut
reaction
| shoot off your mouth claptrap.
|
| i have seen you all claim that all the resource books are faulty to
one
| degree or another. i see on line ged-coms used to substaniate [sic]
claims.
|
| looks like vicious hypocracy [sic] is the name of the game, not
serious
| research or assistance. anyone can criticise.
|
| the informed offer constructive criticism..not suppositions and
| assumptions.
|
| PATHETIC..
|
| roz
|
| -----Original Message-----

| From: D. Spencer Hines [SMTP:]
| Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:20 PM
| To:
| Subject: Re: Royal Descent of Americans
|
| Lieutenant Colonel Nathaniel Pope's father is reportedly Thomas Pope.
|
| Someone who has Faris II at hand, could you please respond to this
| question? JSG appears to be ignoring it.
|
| Thank you.
|
| Is Colonel John Washington shown as descended from Edward III through
| his Father, The Reverend Lawrence Washington, Oxon. A.B. 1623, or his
| Mother, Amphyllis Twigden?
| --
|
| D. Spencer Hines
|
| Lux et Veritas et Libertas
|
| "Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Odi profanum vulgus et
arceo."
|
| Quintus Aurelius Stultus [33 B.C. - 42 A.D.]
|
| All replies to the newsgroup please. Thank you.
|
| All original material contained herein is copyright and property of
the
| author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and with
an
| attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise expressly
| given, in writing.

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